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Old 06-23-2010, 07:21 PM   #11
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jarrett74 (22/06/2010)Petroleumcan and does evaporate, it happenscontinuously in nature.Sludge and weathered"product"cannot. Short of a water spout picking up sludge, this talk makes no sense.
Another reason why we should be careful about saying what does and does not make sense.

[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un8co1d4zb4[/YouTube]

So, is the sky falling?? Yeah!!!!
Strange, after yesterdays rain I went out and checked for new growth on my pepper plants and roses. All the rain did good for the peppers but all the roses were dying, you could see where individual rain drops hit and shriveled rose petals. I have to wonder if it's at least somewhat toxic, like acid rain.
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The only other possibility about the roses is "photo-toxicity" where it rains then the sun comes out at nearly noonish and the water acts as a magnifier and burns it but it is not as likely as the oil residue frying them... I remember misting diesel on fence line weeds as a kid and that is how they acted to that...

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Old 06-23-2010, 08:36 PM   #13
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Ultralite (23/06/2010)a site that combines most all of your weather forecasting needs...

<a href="http://www.bearpawsweather.com/tropical/index.html">http://www.bearpawsweather.com/tropical/index.html</a>
<br style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">My word!!!!

Thanks for that link, I have never see so much weather infomation on one page in all my life....
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:50 PM   #14
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Marine Scout, thanks for posting Youtube video of the oily road/driveway 200miles inland from the coast. Be careful what you trust. I can dump a quart of motor oil on my curb and this is what it would look like after the 3pm thunderstorm. Be careful with Youtube and be careful what "data" you share.

Hoping this whole ordeal ends soon!
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Old 06-26-2010, 02:00 AM   #15
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Mr. Jarrett74, first thing is to thank you for such a civil response. Many times the messenger is shot for doing no more than delivering the message. I understand your caution regarding YouTube videos and any other video source for that matter. The intent is to share data which may or may not be valid or applicable, but if it is known, then it becomes a possible piece of the puzzle and lessens the possibility of complete surprise. I am aware that people treat data differently, some want things wrapped up in neat little packages that they can say yea or nay to conclusively, but most are aware that the real world is not that convenient. I was a research geneticist for a few years in my earlier life and a network, software engineer in the later part. I am very aware that I treat information differently than some. With that said, I am sure that all are very concerned about what is going on and have the best intentions in mind with their postings. But, stayingalert to all possibilities will be to our best interest.
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Old 06-26-2010, 02:11 AM   #16
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Marine Scout (26/06/2010)Mr. Jarrett74, first thing is to thank you for such a civil response. Many times the messenger is shot for doing no more than delivering the message. I understand your caution regarding YouTube videos and any other video source for that matter. The intent is to share data which may or may not be valid or applicable, but if it is known, then it becomes a possible piece of the puzzle and lessens the possibility of complete surprise. I am aware that people treat data differently, some want things wrapped up in neat little packages that they can say yea or nay to conclusively, but most are aware that the real world is not that convenient. I was a research geneticist for a few years in my earlier life and a network, software engineer in the later part. I am very aware that I treat information differently than some. With that said, I am sure that all are very concerned about what is going on and have the best intentions in mind with their postings. But, stayingalert to all possibilities will be to our best interest.
here is a guy who gets it! well said! the reader/watcher gets to decide what the information means to him/her. i think we can handle it.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:12 PM   #17
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LOL NOAA says Not possible what so ever.Whats in the video is where some low life changed the oil in there driveway without a pan and the rains washing it down the street,Oil cannot evaporate
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Agreed..........
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-=Desperado=- (26/06/2010)LOL NOAA says Not possible what so ever.Whats in the video is where some low life changed the oil in there driveway without a pan and the rains washing it down the street,Oil cannot evaporate
deeeesperaaaaado you better come to your senses, youve been out riding fences for... i can stop now.. ok..

oil does evaporate

noaa reportWeathering Processes at Oil Spills as Applied to Resources at Risk, OilPersistence, and Cleanup



EvaporationEvaporation is the single most important weathering process in the first severaldays of an oil spill (Fig. 2-1). For light, refined products such as gasoline,evaporation will remove 100 percent of the spill within a very short time. Forheavy refined products such as No. 6 fuel oil or Bunker C, evaporation will onlyremove 5-10 percent of the spill. For crude oils, the amount of the spill lost toevaporation can range from 20 to 60 percent. For spills of medium crude oils, a ruleof thumb is that 20-30 percent of the oil is lost to evaporation within the first 24hours!

<a href="http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/120/120BG.PDF"><a href="http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/120/120BG.PDF"><a href="http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/120/120BG.PDF">http://www.mms.gov/tarprojects/120/120BG.PDF</a></a></a>also here..

this is a very basic representation of what happens after a spill from msnbc (worth a look)

<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37517080/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37517080/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/</a>
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Considering over 3/4 of the world is covered in salt water but yet it rains fresh water.If the sun cant evaporate salt your telling me it can evaporate oil into rain?
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