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Old 06-29-2014, 09:46 PM   #1
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During their meeting on Friday in key west the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council Council chose preferred alternatives for amendment 40. Action 1, alternative 2 would establish a red snapper for-hire component. Action 2, alternative 4 would allocate the red snapper quota based on average landings from 1996 - 2012 resulting in 47.1% for the for-hire component and 52.9% for the private angling component.

I guess that means around 2 million pounds of snapper given to approximately 1200 active federal permit holders and 2 million pounds or around 300k fish for the coastal fishing populations of TX, LA, MS, AL, and FL. Meanwhile they say they are working on a lawsuit to stop the steps from going non -compliant and I'm sure they are planning on coming after trigger, mingo, grouper, aj, and everything else that swims next.
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https://m.facebook.com/GulfCouncil/p...347376/?type=1

Here is the Convo on it if your up facebook.
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Old 06-30-2014, 12:32 AM   #3
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This is designed to provide a ZERO ay season next year for the private recs while giving the for-hire sector an undeserved 47% of our fish. Kinda like they gave the headboat EFP about double what they should have gotten and are still able to fish for snapper today while we are stuck at the docks.

Roy claims that about 1/2 the fish are caught in state waters, so those will be taken off the top. Then you have a 20% buffer, which will probably be applied to the private recs but not the for-hire vessels' 47%.
So, 100% - 50% - 47% - 20% = NFFU (NO FISH FOR US).

That's the Plan; the fishery is closed to EVERYONE except enviro-funded commercial and charter captains, effectively shutting out the majority SHAREHOLDERS in the Gulf.
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Just remember all you guys supported state seasons now all the states are non-complaint and you all can fish in state waters, some states year round. This in itself will kill any chance of a federal season next year. Every recreatioal angler that fishes on my federally permitted boat will be unable to access this fishery.
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Whatever.

Any kind of Plan that automatically shuts out the majority of stakeholders from the gitgo is doomed to fail.

State fisheries managers have already proven to be more ompetent in managing our fisheries than the fed's have ever dreamed of doing.
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Going to get mighty congested in the local freshwater fishing spots when those big offshore boats start launching at the Blackwater, Yellow River other other freshwater ramps north of Hwy 90.
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Just remember all you guys supported state seasons now all the states are non-complaint and you all can fish in state waters, some states year round. This in itself will kill any chance of a federal season next year. Every recreatioal angler that fishes on my federally permitted boat will be unable to access this fishery.
Just remember that the state actions to open up the their waters for fishing was in response to the federal actions to close the fishery after the judges ruling on the "commercial" lawsuit which you guys supported.
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Just remember all you guys supported state seasons now all the states are non-complaint and you all can fish in state waters, some states year round. This in itself will kill any chance of a federal season next year. Every recreatioal angler that fishes on my federally permitted boat will be unable to access this fishery.
Also you should just remember that the state actions to open up their waters for fishing, followed federal regulators going forward with a head boat pilot program which you guys supported, where recreational fisherman on certain federally permitted head boats are currently accessing the fishery and catching and keeping red snapper in federal waters when private boat owners cannot.

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Just remember all you guys supported state seasons now all the states are non-complaint and you all can fish in state waters, some states year round. This in itself will kill any chance of a federal season next year. Every recreatioal angler that fishes on my federally permitted boat will be unable to access this fishery.
Finally you should just remember that the reason recreational fisherman on your federally permitted charter boat cannot access the state water fishery is due to a federal rule upheld and left in place recently by the federal agency that you guys support daily verbally and in written form, even though that same agency's actions and policies manufactured this current "crisis" state we are in.

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I'm guessing when it is all said and done the power and will of several hundred thousand recreational fishermen will over come the power and will of a few snapper bus drivers out of Zeke's. I look forward to the federal lawsuit (by the federal judge that is in collusion with EDF) suing Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. This should be fun. And I'm sure when congress finally looks into it there will be some lost email. Ard, you may want to go ahead and look back at all your emails now before it ever gets to that.
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