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Old 05-12-2011, 09:43 AM   #61
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IMHO, if the oil/tar was gone as some would like to believe (including me), then I can't imagine why BP is sending out an exploratory sonar vessel and moving heavy equipment in to clean up tar mats that are showing up near shore along the coast. Maybe they're just being good stewards of the environment and cleaning up somebody elses spill. Gentle Wolf has it right, if it's not discussed, then nothing will happen. Silence is consent.
http://www.pnj.com/article/20110512/NEWS01/105120325/BP-use-sonar-seek-out-submerged-oil-mats?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

I do have remorse for all the lost revenue but things aren't going to get any better for any of us, recreational and commercial until the situation is rectified.

HEY BUDDY! There aint no room for logic in this thread! You take your learnin smarts elsewhere.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:52 AM   #62
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As for naysayers Brent I give my opinion because ive been out, fished, caught fish and come to my conclusion based on what ive seen. How bout you? What did you see? Your fish look sick?

He has one of these post every week. I don't think he is intentionally trying to hurt others(hope not anyway) But he likes the attention from it.

Sometimes feeding the country is not enough

you wanna be fisherman i haven't seen you post a fishing report in months, you need to go back to construction and let the real fisherman talk around here..the ones that actually fish on a regular basis not just run around asking questions about fishing..And stop peaking your head intoo these forums calling every one a liar that post a picture of a fish or tar ball, Its actually out there dude if you would get off of your couch and drive around on the water for a bit and get your face out the computer you would see it too..
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:27 AM   #63
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I'm not going to argue on what it is but it just seems weird how a big mat can go through the Destin pass and not touch anything travel down the ICW a few miles and stop there. And I'm guessing that it went through the pass at Destin as it is the closest to the gulf which is an est. of 4 or more miles to where it is (not saying it can't just highly unlikely), again without it having been seen anywhere else.

My best GUESS is it is oil, but NOT from BP. Most likely from a barge. Fort Walton is where I spend most of my vacation time at out on the island. I am very familiar with where this is, this will NOT stop me from coming back!
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Its been in there for months its not just sneaking in its lying on the bottom and surfacing when the temperature is hott enough and then sinking back to the bottom, with the water temperature rising there will be more and more showing up on a daily basis..as for the fish iam not the only ones seeing them coming in sick http://www.weartv.com/newsroom/top_s...id_15477.shtml
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:54 AM   #65
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IMHO, if the oil/tar was gone as some would like to believe (including me), then I can't imagine why BP is sending out an exploratory sonar vessel and moving heavy equipment in to clean up tar mats that are showing up near shore along the coast. Maybe they're just being good stewards of the environment and cleaning up somebody elses spill. Gentle Wolf has it right, if it's not discussed, then nothing will happen. Silence is consent.
http://www.pnj.com/article/20110512/NEWS01/105120325/BP-use-sonar-seek-out-submerged-oil-mats?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

I do have remorse for all the lost revenue but things aren't going to get any better for any of us, recreational and commercial until the situation is rectified.

Its PR, how many huge tarmats or tarballs were reported in cobia season when we had hundreds out there "spotting"? The hydrocarbon is going back to where it lives, hell if its 4 feet under sand than it is getting there faster than I thought.


I havent seen any tarballs,mats or sick fish, and if I did I would say something about it .period. I have seen some unusual pieces of things floating around but I cant rule it as a tarball and aint touching because it could be shit. Also I cant tell you how many sick looking redfish I have seen with unusual growths and discolorations I have seen in Pensacola bay over the past 35 years, let them spend a few weeks in Bayou Chico (most polluted body of water in FL) and see what comes out....oddly though the sick fish are usually swimming/dying and won't eat, but not these reef fish apparently.

It bugs the piss out of me when I see FB pages etc..littered with newly self-proclaimed conservation scientists and biologists stating the "Gulf is ruined and polluted" when in fact the Mississippi River dumps more pollutants into the GOM on a daily basis than that 1 well head could even think of but you never hear or have heard these idiots state that...They don't have the brain capacity to understand that everytime it rains in Illinois pesticides, fertilizers,pharmaceuticals, refined fuels dripping out someones car or washing out pipes from water treatment plants all wash in that gutter and beeline to the River and out the poop chute into the GOM.

I have 15 years in the Audubon society and was the youngest memeber on the board of directors ever and studied birds and wildlife ecosystems for many of my younger years before I started watching them down the barrel of a 12 gauge, none the less I learned a lot about pollution and love the fact that each time I see and Osprey, bluebird I can say I put a platform up or I hung 100 nest boxes this winter"...So dont any of you think I am on here to cover up anything and not discuss it.

Cathunter I have always liked on here,but this issue is an BIG issue for me...Because he is spearheading this floridaoilspilllaw.com crap oddly enough NOONE I know has pics of these fish or has seen them....

I don't want to call him a liar because in general I do trust his opinion and always loved his reports, but something is awful fishy here so my brain can't help but speculate why they seem to only be caught in the commercial sector...HOPEFULLY I never catch these fish, but as soon as I do I will post it....
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corexit fact:
2,000,000 gallons used

gallons of water in the gulf of mexico=
about 650 Quadrillion gallons (650,000,000,000,000,000)

that is 1 part per 325 billion (325,000,000,000)

this is way less than any chemical contaminate allowed in "DRINKING WATER"

my personal experience since the spill is the fishing has never been better (except for all the regulations)

i plan on going out this weekend and putting some of those contaminated fish in my freezer (weather allowing)
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I'll admit I was a bit skeptical about the "oil" in the sounds due to how far from the pass it is and that I'm in that area 2 or 3 times a week and have never seen anything resembling oil, but I do think yall need to get off cat hunters ass. He isn't trying to hurt the economy or give bad info. How can anything be done if people are just going to act like nothing happened and everything is ok. Commercial guys see 1000 times the fish a normal recreational fisherman does, so just because you or your friends haven't run into any of the fish doens't mean he BSing. Let's look at some facts though....
About the oil in the sounds, this area has the highest density of large boats to water of anywhere around the fort walton area. Therefore IMO has the highest chance of one of these large boats leaking oil. So maybe not from BP but to say it's jellyfish and seaweed is way more far fetched than saying it's oil.
Lets look at the fish, a commercial boat is catching hundreds of pounds of snapper a day, compared to the 20 to 50 pounds you and your friends may catch. So I beleive Cathunter has a much higher chance of coming across one of these fish than any of us.

I'm not a scientist , but I do have common sense. For ya'll to get mad at him for posting things like this is rediculous. The spill sucks for all of us, but to try to make an excuse for every picture someone puts up isn't helping anything.
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corexit fact:
2,000,000 gallons used

gallons of water in the gulf of mexico=
about 650 Quadrillion gallons (650,000,000,000,000,000)

that is 1 part per 325 billion (325,000,000,000)

this is way less than any chemical contaminate allowed in "DRINKING WATER"

my personal experience since the spill is the fishing has never been better (except for all the regulations)

i plan on going out this weekend and putting some of those contaminated fish in my freezer (weather allowing)
I 100% agree with u the fishing east of mobile is better then i have ever seen it we never said its not, but theres things going on in our local waters that are getting swept under the matts.. It concerns me as well as others, the people that report this stuff have no ties to weird conspiracy theory web sites we report them because we see them.
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Lets look at the fish, a commercial boat is catching hundreds of pounds of snapper a day, compared to the 20 to 50 pounds you and your friends may catch. So I beleive Cathunter has a much higher chance of coming across one of these fish than any of us.
I bet I have handled as many snapper as he has this year and know others who have also and we have not seen it..Also I have worked a year on a grouper/tuna longliners and 2-3 years of my life on bandit boats so I know exactly what he does...Fact is we fish the same areas daily and are not seeing it
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I bet I have handled as many snapper as he has this year and know others who have also and we have not seen it..Also I have worked a year on a grouper/tuna longliners and 2-3 years of my life on bandit boats so I know exactly what he does...Fact is we fish the same areas daily and are not seeing it
id like to see proof of that state ment
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