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Old 03-14-2011, 11:11 PM   #21
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"alternative fuels and electric vehicles. dont drill the gulf Canada has plenty of oil in the ground"
Drilling in the gulf would help this economy get back on its feet and would supply several jobs for people.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:01 AM   #22
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I think offshore drilling has to happen... but I dont want to see it exported I say drill baby drill, I just hope with the last accident that response and clean up efforts are more advanced and hopefully better technics. dont want to see BP or anyone else asking for Ideas on what to use for cleanup..... C'Mon Man
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:17 PM   #24
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You are exactly right kim, if we could start drilling for oil in our waters you would cheaper gas prices for years to come and you mark my word on that i guarantee it. Just think the big tankers that deliver the oil has to go across half the world to Saudi Arabia, then deliver it back here and then do the process all over again. You would see production speed up.I'm pretty certain they've got an oil refinery in houston.And for you people that wants to complain about seeing oil rigs off the beach you can resolve that problem by drilling at 20 miles bc only on the perfect conditions can you see the condos just my .02
In fact i would bet a couple of hundred dollars and a couple of fishing trips out on the GOM that you would see gas prices plundge way down and it would stay down for a while.And talk about some GOOD FISHIN' around those rigs ohh yeah.

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Just FYI, according to DOE's Energy Information Administration, (EIA), offshore crude oil production in the Gulf of Mexico accounts for only 8 percent of total U.S. liquid fuels consumed. (Slightly over half of the liquid fuels used in the U.S. are imported, and slightly under half are produced domestically). So, using those figures, re-opening the Gulf to deepwater drilling shouldn't, (I stress shouldn't), have a significant effect on our price at the pump.
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It will have some effect, not only at the pump, but by creating good paying jobs. This usually has a trickle down effect with the rest of the economy.
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Just FYI, according to DOE's Energy Information Administration, (EIA), offshore crude oil production in the Gulf of Mexico accounts for only 8 percent of total U.S. liquid fuels consumed. (Slightly over half of the liquid fuels used in the U.S. are imported, and slightly under half are produced domestically). So, using those figures, re-opening the Gulf to deepwater drilling shouldn't, (I stress shouldn't), have a significant effect on our price at the pump.

Because they keep chopping us off at the knees, it could account for significantly more.

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What makes you think they will learn their lesson from this spill? They didnt learn crap from all the other accidents in their history. They are still getting fined for what they are not doing in texas city. How many times does a corp have to screw up before you say enough is enough?

Refining is not drilling. Different arms of the same company, not remotely related, and I'm sorry but industrial accidents are a unfortunate side effect of industrialized societies. Human failures or better yet errors in judgment are the major factors, but sometimes s%$t just happens despite our best efforts. I guess we could all go back to an agrarian hunter gatherer society, any takers?
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Refining is not drilling. Different arms of the same company, not remotely related, and I'm sorry but industrial accidents are a unfortunate side effect of industrialized societies. Human failures or better yet errors in judgment are the major factors, but sometimes s%$t just happens despite our best efforts. I guess we could all go back to an agrarian hunter gatherer society, any takers?

So what your saying is BP is not responsible for their refining operations which without, no oil there would be? Who gives a (^^$#&. They acquired Texas City from the Amaco merger. Which was rife with the need for upgrades or improvements. It was a drop in the bucket as far as capital. The blow out preventer was only 100, 000 us.. They chose to sweep it under the rug.

They admitted to using grossly under qualified inspectors in Texas City! All of which were replaced ASAP. Despite what you call best efforts... UH OK?

And Texas City is now being sold. They (texas city) were still being fined by OSHA to the tune of 50 million in October of 2009.

Im to believe this is how a multinational company is supposed to operate?

Lastly, no i don't want to go agrarian... Weak argument. I wish to fix what we have. I don't operate that way. Just do the right thing. That's all i ask.
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So what your saying is BP is not responsible for their refining operations which without, no oil there would be? Who gives a (^^$#&. They acquired Texas City from the Amaco merger. Which was rife with the need for upgrades or improvements. It was a drop in the bucket as far as capital. The blow out preventer was only 100, 000 us.. They chose to sweep it under the rug.

They admitted to using grossly under qualified inspectors in Texas City! All of which were replaced ASAP. Despite what you call best efforts... UH OK?

And Texas City is now being sold. They (texas city) were still being fined by OSHA to the tune of 50 million in October of 2009.

Im to believe this is how a multinational company is supposed to operate?

Lastly, no i don't want to go agrarian... Weak argument. I wish to fix what we have. I don't operate that way. Just do the right thing. That's all i ask.

No... what I'm saying is drilling is not refining and should be treated as such. One has nothing to do with the other.

Weak argument, I think not, industrialized societies will have industrial accidents, period, it is a fact of life. The alternative is to eliminate industry.

BP is doing what every corporation can and should do, maximize return for their shareholders. Of course some companies have a corporate culture that is more conducive to the environment and their workers, BP has shown themselves to not be one of them, but there are many responsible operators out there. It is the responsibility of government both national and international to ensure that they do not run amok, and that they protect both their workers and the environment. It is a balancing act, too much regulation and you choke an industry, like the situation we are in now. Not enough and you have the situation we had that led up to the spill. The problem before was not that there was not enough regulation, but the enforcement as such. This was a problem that spanned multiple administrations.
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