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Old 06-25-2019, 05:10 PM   #1
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Default Alabama adding days to Snapper season, what about Florida?

Who counts these fish??? If they add days to Alabama, why not to Florida???
https://mynbc15.com/news/local/alaba...snapper-season
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Old 06-25-2019, 05:39 PM   #2
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Alabama has a mandatory reporting program for all snapper harvested. They are way ahead of everyone else. They are collecting data and using it

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Must have a valid Alabama saltwater fishing license, as required, when in possession of any saltwater fish species in Alabama waters.
Harvested red snapper must be reported on one Snapper Check report per vessel trip before fish are landed in Alabama.
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What does florida have? Pic a number out of a hat?
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What does florida have? Pic a number out of a hat?
In the panhandle, at least, they depend on pictures posted on the PFF. Then multiply it by number of members.
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Truth be told, Alabama has more snapper per acre than Florida. I think they prefer that mud bottom. The trade-off is - NO GROUPER in Bama waters. OK, there's the odd one caught close to the Fla line or waaay out at the edge, but nothing to speak of on the shelf.
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Truth be told, Alabama has more snapper per acre than Florida. I think they prefer that mud bottom. The trade-off is - NO GROUPER in Bama waters. OK, there's the odd one caught close to the Fla line or waaay out at the edge, but nothing to speak of on the shelf.
I have to agree, but we have habitat like no other area (except LA and MS with the oil platforms maybe)

This pic is of the spots I've collected over the years. Couldn't fish them all in 10 lifetimes.
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Makes sense on the harvest report then. I assumed they were guessing like FL!
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Florida also has a reporting app but it is voluntary and everyone I talked to won't report on it because one of the required fields is that you put exact location where you caught the fish lon/lat. No one want to give up that information so they don't use the app. They sent me a gulf reef fish survey in Feb and it asked how many and what kind of fish I caught in October. It also had a couple of questions about the reporting app and a comment section and I told them if they took out the part about requiring location more people would use it. They have a separate app for recreational fishermen and charter boats. I think this would be a great way to get a more accurate count than they have ever done by any other method they are just going to have to make it's use mandatory. Maybe someone from AL can answer but it is my understanding over that they have to open a "trip" on the app before they go fishing. If caught with fish without an open "trip" they get a ticket. The "trip" must be closed out before they dock with the fish. Another "trip" is opened for the next time they fish. Not sure what information they ask for to close the trip but it surely includes number of fish caught and number of fishermen.
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What does florida have? Pic a number out of a hat?
Nothing that scientific!

Florida and the Gulf Council both use the S.W.A.G. method of calculating fish harvest. As everyone knows, S.W.A.G. stands for "scientific wild a$$ guess".
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As an out of stater, FWC didn't even send me my ARS survey last year; however, 3 out of the 5 times we have been out this year we were questioned at the boat ramp as we returned.

The type of data they are collecting at the boat ramp is laughable, but you can probably expect a better Trigger season in the future. One boat claimed they released 84 triggers, then when asked if that was their total, they said no each of us caught 84.
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