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Old 03-16-2017, 03:58 PM   #11
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One of these days I am going to eat a sheephead.
Or one day he's gonna eat you....!
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:15 PM   #12
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That kinda creeps me out a little, how do you set a hook in that good grief. What other fish do they taste like?
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:38 PM   #13
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There is a great reason why greed is one of the 7 deadly sins. I am always amazed at how slow we humans learn, even with history smacking us in the face...people once thought buffalo would roam the plains by the millions forever too.
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Why does anyone need a freezer full of deer meat???
Are they being over fished or something?
If the mob of hungry little bastages were given a free pass by closing the season altogether, would we be sending them on to compete with the snapper and triggerfish for food?
Seems like they are holding their own under their current management efforts...


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That's my opinion. It's neither right nor wrong, but here's how I come to such a view:

Every year there are more and more and more boats targeting Sheepshead during prime spawning period along with the poachers highlighted in the OPs post. There are also a number of commercial hook-and-line fishermen taking in big hauls. They are relatively easy to find and catch and are often targeted the most during spawning. There were over 20 boats in Perdido Pass this morning and the main target is Sheepshead. Boats coming in with 30-60 Sheepshead is common.

There's always plenty until there isn't.
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:45 PM   #15
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Why does anyone need a freezer full of deer meat???
Are they being over fished or something?
If the mob of hungry little bastages were given a free pass by closing the season altogether, would we be sending them on to compete with the snapper and triggerfish for food?
Seems like they are holding their own under their current management efforts...


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That's my opinion. It's neither right nor wrong, but here's how I come to such a view:

Every year there are more and more and more boats targeting Sheepshead during prime spawning period along with the poachers highlighted in the OPs post. There are also a number of commercial hook-and-line fishermen taking in big hauls. They are relatively easy to find and catch and are often targeted the most during spawning. There were over 20 boats in Perdido Pass this morning and the main target is Sheepshead. Boats coming in with 30-60 Sheepshead is common.

There's always plenty until there isn't.



Please don't think I was applauding the work of Poachers mentioned, But I was asking a serious question. Has the fishing pressure of the average Joe that gets a couple Trips in while they are here placed a measurable Burden on them???( Even those you mentioned that are getting a multiple man limit)
As thick as they appear to be every season. they appear to Breed like Mice and the current limit seems to be working.
I was also serious when I asked Where would they go in there Mob like numbers and what would the Eat when they get there???

It's kind of like hearing folks say that Deer would suffer if there was not a managed effort to thin the population. Are they correct or just justifying their wishes to hunt them?..

How would Chris V manage them and what changes would you make to serve everybody's best interests??? I vote to close the commercial boats and limit for hire guides to ONE trip out a day. A guide that makes two trips a day with a group on each trip for three or four weaks is a lot of fish each season...
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:55 PM   #16
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I'm happy with 5-6.
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:37 PM   #17
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Even though I gripe about fishing regulations, this case should make anyone understand why there has to be limits. Some people will not stop at a reasonable catch number. Snapper was like this in the 60s here. Hope not but I could see a moratorium on sheepshead if someone decides the population needs to rebound.

I am curious if these guys caught with the sheepshead were local.
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Local wrecks and well known rocks get hammered relentlessly down here.
Good spots 10 years ago are ghost towns now. The same holds true for Grouper. Luckily, our nearshore water stays too murky and sharky for the reef rapers.

Before LORAN C I'd often see a thousand or more Sheepshead without getting wet on shallow rocks and wrecks. Not today, however.Modern electronics for fish and position finding plus the increasing number of boats will be the end of sport fishing. A limit of 5 Sheepshead is more than generous.

Look what has happened to the Cobia. How many will be caught or even seen this year? I predict a total closure within 2 years.

There are a few huge bright spots if you just think about it. Look at how many inshore fish we have these days since the net ban. What about Kingfish? There would be 0 today if they hadn't received help before the stock totally collapsed. Same for Jewfish. The Jewfish population is alive and well due to good management. With 5 years of 0 protection, Jewfish would be extinct.

Grouper are really hurting. There sure seems to be plenty of snapper.

Cobia are on the brink and Tripletail will soon follow unless I miss my guess.

I hate to be a harbinger of doom but it is past time we face the facts.
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Poaching is down right wrong, but I have to point out that they were doing it on a pier. Ignorance is bliss.
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I'll bet they were going to sell them but not to a fish house.
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