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Posted 3/7/2008 11:53:18 AM


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Went hog hunting with my girlfriends dad and we have had a slow year but action finally heated up this week when sunday her dad killed two hogs with the biggest one right at 154 lbs.  I killed 4 tuesday afternoon I will have pics up ASAP



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Posted 3/7/2008 2:33:31 PM


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Poor little piglets!

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Posted 3/7/2008 3:50:44 PM
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Nice pics!
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Posted 3/7/2008 3:53:54 PM
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Where were you hunting at just curious?? 
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Posted 3/7/2008 6:07:04 PM
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Posted 3/7/2008 8:32:35 PM


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Them babys make good sanmiches. 

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Posted 3/8/2008 4:57:02 PM


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just an hour north of pensacola at my girlfriends dads property

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Posted 3/8/2008 5:30:39 PM


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good job and those are good pigs for your first. i am yet to kill one yet

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Posted 3/8/2008 5:56:35 PM


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I hate to be critical of someone thats proud of their kill, but why would you kill pigs that small. I'm referring to all those piglets that are lined up barely as long as the tailgate is wide. I wouldn't boast about that. I see it looks like you have some larger pigs on the property , why not target them and leave the piglets for next year?



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Posted 3/8/2008 8:28:17 PM
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nice piglets they will be great on the smoker tender/ and donedeal2 hog reproduce so fast that if you did not kill the small they will take over your property
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Posted 3/8/2008 8:42:24 PM


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DoneDeal2 (3/8/2008)
I hate to be critical of someone thats proud of their kill, but why would you kill pigs that small. I'm referring to all those piglets that are lined up barely as long as the tailgate is wide. I wouldn't boast about that. I see it looks like you have some larger pigs on the property , why not target them and leave the piglets for next year?


You ever see a field of corn after a group of hogs goes through it? Looks like a bunch of teenagers have been mudriding in it. They destroy crops, uproot fences and new saplings-they absolutely wreak havoc on land. Also, that tenderloin on the little ones is DAMN tender...besides, a single pair of hogs can produce up to 90 offspring in a YEAR. The gestation period is very short with wild hogs.


 

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Posted 3/8/2008 9:42:56 PM
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I agree with blue hoo, its called property management.  Plus, they will taste mighty fine on the grill.  Nice kill Toole.
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Exactly as they mentioned above I am helping with property management and we have already cooked two of the piglets and half the big hog and let me tell you what...those pigs on the smoker are incredible....best thing i have eaten in a while!!!!

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Absolutely! In our club it is in our rule's that if you see a pig you ARE TO SHOOT IT!  They are devastating to food plot's.

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Posted 3/9/2008 8:56:34 AM


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I will agree that they multiply rapidly, but they are not so bad. They hype of them taking over your land around here is BS. Yes ,you see them in large groups many times but you dont always see them. Funny how they are suddenly a nuisance but, everyone cant wait to "hunt hogs" and describe how great they taste. I consider them fun to hunt as well but i dont shoot the piglets .....I wonder how mad everyone would get if we ate all the juvenile cobia since adults produce between 400,000 and 5 million eggs ...You can hypothetical the whole conversation to death, but I just posted my opinion and wondered why he doesnt shoot just the larger hogs. By the way where were these killed? Now I'm sure i just poured more gas on the fire but i'm not wasting shells on pigs that are that small. Try trapping them and let see how many of them you catch. I have also hunted pigs from here to TEXAS and hunted large ranches with herds as large as 2000 free roaming and it wasnt total destruction and they were still elusive. I've hunted 200 acre parcels with deer food plots and considerable hog populations and they didnt tear it up anything out of the unexpected and were only seen sporadic times of the year. While maybe they are just eating BLUE HOO'S whole plantation down,alot of folks  still pay to hunt them for food  and sport value. Just like anything else it can be managed. Furthermore BLUEHOO, if you plant food , what do you expect a wild animal to do? Walk by and not eat it. They are friggin wild and will do whats necessary to survive, which includes eating. You would have a better arguement if they were pure carnivores who preyed on your livestock. Animals eating planted corn is not even a real discussion comparison. Do you kill every fish you catch that is not what you are targeting...HELL NO! You can kill baby pigs all you want to, but i won't. I'd rather hunt the larger ones. So i still agree to disagree...again where were these killed?



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DoneDeal2 (3/8/2008)
I hate to be critical of someone thats proud of their kill, but why would you kill pigs that small. I'm referring to all those piglets that are lined up barely as long as the tailgate is wide. I wouldn't boast about that. I see it looks like you have some larger pigs on the property , why not target them and leave the piglets for next year?

they breed fast. if ya have killed and ate a hog like that you will change your mind. they are so delicious. they will have brothers and sisters that size next year. or maybe i am just the best cook ever, who knows.

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Posted 3/9/2008 10:06:01 AM
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Like Woody said, they are very destructive.  Plus a sow reproduces 4-5 times a year.  So smoking those piglets is the best thing to do.  But in saying that, a hog is a pretty smart animal.  After you bust a couple of them, they get kinda weary about where and when they move. 
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Posted 3/9/2008 11:40:25 AM


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Very nice Shane!! 

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Posted 3/9/2008 1:04:58 PM
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Pigs are not native game species! Ask any biologist and he will tell you to kill every feral hog you see. They destroy the habitat and prey on all kinds of indigenous species. They raid bird nests (turkey and qual) and eat snakes that control the rodent population. There rooting causes erosion and completely kills plants. They are considered livestock, not a game species (like cobia as some one alluded to). Would you bitch about someone eating a baby cow, or how about a piglet from a pig that is in a pen?

I would be more worried about that picture turning some people against hunting. Some kid that hasn't formed an opinion on the subject might see it and think that hunting is wrong because the little baby pig got it's backside blown off. I don't want you to take that as saying your picture or your post is wrong in anyway, this is the correct place to display such a picture. But say, posting it on a forum unrelated to hunting could form some negative opinion about the sport. I've got shoe boxes full of pictures just like that and see nothing wrong with killing piglets, but I am careful about who I show some of the pictures to.

Oh and I almost forgot, Congratulations and enjoy the pork!

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Posted 3/9/2008 1:27:28 PM
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DoneDeal2, do you any idea what your even talking about. You said,"I will agree that they multiply rapidly, but they are not so bad. The hype of them taking over your land around here is BS."  BS huh. I think that statement is BS.   If your trying to say that hogs don't tear up your land, take over, and aren't a nuisance, then your crazy.  
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Posted 3/9/2008 3:49:43 PM


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donedeal obviously does not know shit about hogs
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OK,I guess I'm crazy. The same ranches that have populations of thousands have some of the largest bucks in the south. I dont have a problem with killing pigs but , i wont kill piglets. I like hog hunting but you cant use the rational that they are destroying everything. In some parts of the country deer destroy everything they can get their mouth on. They still implement regulations on them. Florida even has regulations. I will agree they do eat good. I love how everyone on here rushed in to crucify me over a small question about Tooletime killing piglets,and i have probably been hunting longer than he has been alive....(over 30 years)...regardless I'll maintain my crazy ass opinion (per MCHUNTER) and maybe everyone will carry this same attitude into the (under construction) PFFHC where there wont be any YAHOO"S allowed....yeah right...It's great how one minute everyone on this forum bitches about conservation and in then a few threads later it's exactly the opposite. Seems to that i'm not the only one with an opinion ,but conservation only applies in certain cases, (like the flounder thread). I rarely post on this forum, and this is exactly why I dont, as well as several other people I have met....It's just not worth it to us "crazy" people when there are so many young experts that we should consult with first...Flame on I'm done...I'd still like to know where these were killed.....Edited to add that i would like to hear BLUEHOO'S,MCHUNTER and HaterAide's hog hunting expertise and background since i dont seem to know shit!



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I think your source is of information is a bit off. The “hype” of them taking over is no hype…it is a straight up fact. I talked to the game warden recently over on my property in central Alabama and he said the closest he has heard of/seen them is about 15 miles to the north of where we are located. Said it would only be a matter of months before the pigs are on our place. I hunt them at one of my boss’s properties in Macon Co, AL. If you’re not familiar with the gestation cycle of a pig, Auburn has a whole swine research unit you can call and talk to some of the veterinarians that run that place. A single pair of hogs can breed up to NINETY piglets a year, and no less than 40. When you consider a hog reaches sexual maturity in less than 12 months, that is that many more pigs running around. I’ll let you do the math.

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......I wonder how mad everyone would get if we ate all the juvenile cobia since adults produce between 400,000 and 5 million eggs ... ?
That is like comparing apples to oranges. Cobes are not a nuisance last time I checked. For one, the hogs on my boss’s property are so ill-mannered they will straight up attack us when we’re checking the cows, or riding around on the golf carts. So now they have moved from game to nuisance to threat. I have stitched up many a labrador that has been brought in because a hog got a hold of it. They can mess you up. As for trapping them, that is the main way we destroy them. We catch whole families at times, and everyone of those suckers dies….and the meat goes in our freezer, our friends’, or project venison.

DoneDeal2 (3/9/2008)
Furthermore BLUEHOO, if you plant food , what do you expect a wild animal to do? Walk by and not eat it.?
I plant crops for 2 reasons. One, to grow huge bucks, turkeys, and ducks.  Two, so I can provide food for my family and even sell a few at the farmer’s market. Deer do not destroy my crops by any means. I’ll put PlotSaver up for several weeks during germination so my beans, corn, clovers, etc. get very bushy and established before I let the animals have at it. And even still, no matter how much they consume, they still do not do the damage a hog will do. Deer also do not create massive wallows and ruts in roads….creating a hazardous environment for vehicles. It is that much more (unnecessary) work for me to do on the tractor.


 

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"For one, the hogs on my boss’s property are so ill-mannered they will straight up attack us when we’re checking the cows, or riding around on the golf carts".

You will not convince me or anyone else that hunts hogs that they just randomly attack people. BS they will run at the slightest smell and/or sight of a human . If you corner one yes they will inflict harm to you. I will agree that they will tear up food plots and wallow out roads but you are over exaggerating quite a bit. They are animals like anything else and will go to a food source. When you plant it , you dont necessarily get to pick your species that will eat it.  Who's to say that your dog didnt chase one down and get a hold of it and got tore up in the process...C'mon Blue talk facts not myths or what you have heard. It seems you constantly know more about hunting than everyone else in the sport. I dont condemn Tooletime for hunting pigs but i just personally wouldn't shoot them that small..Not to mention alot of folks would love to have hogs on their property to hunt...I have never met one hunter who said "I wish all the hogs on my property were gone or would die"..Again where were these killed ?



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"For one, the hogs on my boss’s property are so ill-mannered they will straight up attack us when we’re checking the cows, or riding around on the golf carts".

You will not convince me or anyone else that hunts hogs that they just randomly attack people. BS they will run at the slightest smell and/or sight of a human . If you corner one yes they will inflict harm to you. I will agree that they will tear up food plots and wallow out roads but you are over exaggerating quite a bit. They are animals like anything else and will go to a food source. When you plant it , you dont necessarily get to pick your species that will eat it.  Who's to say that your dog didnt chase one down and get a hold of it and got tore up in the process...C'mon Blue talk facts not myths or what you have heard. It seems you constantly know more about hunting than everyone else in the sport. I dont condemn Tooletime for hunting pigs but i just personally wouldn't shoot them that small..Not to mention alot of folks would love to have hogs on their property to hunt...I have never met one hunter who said "I wish all the hogs on my property were gone or would die"..Again where were these killed ?



Nowhere in my previous posts was I personally criticizing you, but since you appear to have been backed into a corner and are throwing out personal attacks, well then we can go that route if you choose. Have you personally been to one of my properties and witnessed the hogs coming after us? The answer is "no." Consequently, would you have any arguement or otherwise authoritative position to say whether my hogs will attack vehicles or dogs? That answer, is also no; because you are not an authority on either the subject at hand, nor the lay of my land and the animals' behaviour. MY dogs have never been harmed by the hogs; I was simply stating that I have stiched up many a dog that has been brought into the office for hog-inflicted wounds. But as for me and my 3 dogs, anything that may attack them, will ultimately meet the business end of one of my guns. As for you getting your panties in a bunch about me appearing to "constantly know more about hunting," I never EVER claimed to know more than my fellow man. However, because so many other people decide to choose silence over speech, (whether they are knowledgable regarding the topic at hand or just plain ignorant) it allows those who are more vocally pronounced to come across as educated. I do have a vast amount of knowledge regarding the outdoors and more specifically, small property management, and choose to share that knowledge as opposed to selfishly keeping it all to myself. So if you have a problem with that, I think you should step back and better pick your battles. As for your last statement, I know PLENTY of people who have such a vast amount of hogs on their property, wreaking havoc on fences, miscellaneous equipment pertaining to cattle, CROPS (NOT meant for animal consumption), etc. that they offer to PAY people for every hog shot.


 

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Your right for once Blue,I dont know your land and haver never been nor witnessed a hog attack your vehicles...Sounds more storybook to me. Dogs get stitched up everyday for lots of reasons not just hogs...I can tell you this for a fact most if not all  dogs get stitched because they messed with the hog not the reverse....On another note ,I dont think anyone would right out claim to know everything about hunting but just sitting back reading your constant posts , you sure make it seem that way. It seems several people have commented on it in the past, in other threads(no, i'm not going back searching threads , just to show you either). While anyones opinion can be greatly apopreciated , most of the time if it's not the same thing that goes on at Primetime Plantation then its pure wrong.... I would rather hear several opinions that greatly differ (like mine  and Tooletime's regarding killing small pigs) than a know it all outlook like you portray constantly. No, I dont know everything about pigs and dont care to but gave an honest opinion about how I wouldn't kill them that small. Yet you immediately throw information out about how pigs are destroying planet earth and breeding in unbelievable quantities. Anyone capable of typing on this forum has the ability to do that research  and get those answers. If I had multiple properties to manage like yourself( i assume you parents gave it to you or still own it) , I guess I would be proud to tell people about it too. Picking battles is not hard, but finding someone with a near equal wit at times can be challenging. In the meantime tell those plenty of people who have vast amount of hogs , that i know a few folks including myself who will kill them for free and still leave the piglets. I never believed they would pay anyway!!!!! Gotta go for now...holler at you tomorrow.



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If I had multiple properties to manage like yourself( i assume you parents gave it to you or still own it) ,

That sounds like jelousy.

I guees you don't get it. Feral hogs are a huge environmental disaster all over the planet, from the U.S to Australia. Yes, they are great game animals, I give you that. If you want to manage them for their game potential then you would not kill piglets, but if you want to manage the land correctly for native game then you kill every hog you see. Don't ask me or Woody, ask a wildlife biologist.

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Hogs are ruthless savages that don't belong in Florida's woods (or any other state for that matter). I've seen them root up sea turtle nests for christs sake! Killing those little football sized piglets is fun.
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DoneDeal2 (3/9/2008)
On another note ,I dont think anyone would right out claim to know everything about hunting but just sitting back reading your constant posts , you sure make it seem that way


This is clearly the way you interpret it. If you feel like you have a wealth of knowledge to share, then by all means let it out. If you are too busy, or otherwise don’t care to comment on a particular thread, then that is your decision. But don’t jump down my ass because I decide to comment (and usually ANSWER A QUESTION) on various parts of this website. Also, I don’t think I have ever told anyone that what they’re doing is flat out “wrong.” But I will sure as hell comment on what works and does not work for me, seeing as how we have a lot of success (more success than failure) with the way we do things around our farm, especially when it comes to managing wildlife. Pigs are not like a buck, in that you hope a buck meets its genetic potential and reaches both sexual and physical maturity before harvesting it. A wild hog, which is an introduced species, can be successfully harvested at just about any stage in its life. The meat is good on all of them; and one less hog running around is a good thing. At the place I frequent where we do have hogs-we are happy to be able to hunt them; but, would not be upset if we shot them all and had none to shoot. One less PEST we have to worry about. Also, a group of hogs will run a group of deer right off of a foodplot. There is no friendly, social interaction. Hence the phrase “hogging” something.

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hahahaha agreed. If I am driving our property and I see a whole pack of em', I will not just keep on driving like I would a bunch of deer in the off season. That's why I keep the guns in the truck...


 

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