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Posted 9/30/2008 3:59:02 PM


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Alright guys my wife finally signed off on me getting a bigger boat.  I am headed down to look at this one next week and if it passes inspection she should be back here by the end of the month.  Just looking for everyones opinions, good, bad whatever...if anyone has any first hand knowledge with this make and model that would be awesome.  Anyway heres the link:  http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&id=1864090&lang=en&slim=quick&

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Posted 9/30/2008 4:06:22 PM


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FLYBOY (9/30/2008)
Alright guys my wife finally signed off on me getting a bigger boat. I am headed down to look at this one next week and if it passes inspection she should be back here by the end of the month. Just looking for everyones opinions, good, bad whatever...if anyone has any first hand knowledge with this make and model that would be awesome. Anyway heres the link:http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&id=1864090&lang=en&slim=quick&


Looks like it's in really good shape. I don't own or know much about boats that size, but if I were in the market, my biggest decision would be based around diesel vs. gas. Be sure you know all the pros and cons of each.


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Posted 9/30/2008 4:19:56 PM


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For sure...If I could afford diesels that is what I would prefer, but after reading David Pascoe's book(google him) gas motors in this size boat aren't that bad...I just wish they had more range I want to be able to occasionally make a rigs trip.

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Posted 9/30/2008 4:34:50 PM


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I was looking at a larger boat like this one and everyone pointed out the whole diesel vs gas thing to me also. In the end, I took the thing out and decided it would be too hard for me to handle since it's usually my 2 young sons and I fishing. So, decide if you'll be able to handle a boat that large with whoever you normally fish with. That's just my opinion and I'm no expert. But, I'd gladly give you a hand when you fish it..

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Posted 9/30/2008 5:19:35 PM


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wow, matt.. that sure is a boat... I'm no boat expert but, it looks good from my end.. ahahaha
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Posted 9/30/2008 6:01:03 PM


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i say if thats the boat both you and your wife like it and can afford it then go for it!! nice sled! cant wait to see the reports and fish blood covering the deck

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Posted 9/30/2008 6:02:31 PM
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Get on the hull truth.com and look up Lhurs. They have a bad rep over there.

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Posted 9/30/2008 6:42:41 PM


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Contact "Voodoo Lounge", Capt. Tony Blanton. He may be able to give you some good gouge and handle the inspection too.

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Posted 9/30/2008 6:53:24 PM
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I do not think gas is a good choice of engines.  The boat is great

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Posted 9/30/2008 6:57:44 PM


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O ya, neighbor has a 35ft mainship with tiwn screws... He's never really said anything about diesel or gas.. His is gas and loves it..
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Posted 9/30/2008 7:31:56 PM


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right now we own a 31ft sportscraft with twin screws & 350 mercrusier motors.....i hate them so much it's unreal....but i wouldn't base my personal experiences with these motors with all other gas motors ....cause we've just had bad luck.....sweet boat though....and remember just cause it has gas now doesn't mean you can't go to desiel later...that boat is surely worthy of putting money into a motor swap... ....i say go a get it....nice rig
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Posted 9/30/2008 7:36:00 PM


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Nice lookin boat, oddly enough I've been looking at Luhrs 32-36, but it's diesel only for me.

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Posted 9/30/2008 7:36:54 PM


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they crammed a lot of boat into a 32'. looks pretty

 

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Posted 9/30/2008 7:59:51 PM


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Thanks guys...good call with contacting VooDoo...I will definately give Tony a call.  I hope this boat works out...I am stoked!!!

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Posted 9/30/2008 8:15:30 PM


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im gonna sound stupid here but what is the problem with gas as apposed to diesle when it comes to inboards

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Posted 9/30/2008 8:20:52 PM


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im gonna sound stupid here but what is the problem with gas as apposed to diesle when it comes to inboards

1.  Durability

2.  Maintenance

3.  Economy

4.  Resale value

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Posted 9/30/2008 8:21:41 PM


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diesels have kinda like a more life, then gas...Uhh just like a big 3500 chevy.. Which would you like?? a gas or diesel? I would take a Diesel over the gas, so the boat is the same way... probably alittle better MPG, alittle less wear and tear and maintence.
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Posted 9/30/2008 8:52:53 PM


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flyboy, have you priced wet slips yet? my buddy keeps his 34 Luhrs at the shalimar yacht club and his storage charge is as much as his boat payment. just a thought to keep in mind for budget concerns.

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Posted 9/30/2008 8:52:57 PM


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Gas or diesel it is a great looking vessel. Remember its a buyers market and will probably get much better (from your perspective) If you're not going to be fishing this winter it might be prudent to put this one on your short list and continue watching the market.More importantly is the fact your wife supports your illness errr adiction to saltwater! 

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Posted 9/30/2008 9:09:29 PM
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What about this one? It's local and a PFF member.

 

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Posted 9/30/2008 9:28:14 PM


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flyboy, have you priced wet slips yet? my buddy keeps his 34 Luhrs at the shalimar yacht club and his storage charge is as much as his boat payment. just a thought to keep in mind for budget concerns.

I am very lucky in that I am in the military and will be keeping it at either Pensacola NAS or Eglin AFB....its VERY affordable and close to the pass....

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Posted 9/30/2008 9:45:42 PM


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Hey matt,

 when/if you get this new one.. Dont forget about are fishin trip we talked about.... ahaha.. the little guy is ready..   

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Posted 9/30/2008 10:12:08 PM


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wld1985 (9/30/2008)
Hey matt,

 when/if you get this new one.. Dont forget about are fishin trip we talked about.... ahaha.. the little guy is ready..   

Bill...Absolutely, I leave for Iraq Oct 25thish but I should be home in time for Cobia season, I am keeping my cobia tower on my current boat to put on this one if I get it...either way I am already counting the days until I get back home and I haven't even left yet and you and your son are gauranteed a spot on my boat.... 

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Posted 9/30/2008 10:47:03 PM


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What are your plans for the boat? If you plan on doing a lot of offshore trolling or a lot of cursing around at 10 knots or so, I'd look at a diesel. They sip fuel at that speed.

Also, a 5kw generator seems a little small for that boat. I would have thought it would have had a 7.5kw in it. Does it have one AC or two? If only one, 5kw should work.

Boat looks great! Be sure to sea trial it on a day when you can see how it handles rough water. Get side sea in it and see if you can hold on up top.

Factor in a 20 knot cruise (23MPH) too. That's pretty slow by today's standards.

Another thing to consider is if you bottom fish a lot and do not usually anchor, someone will need to be up top all the time (you). With a sportfisher or center console, you can still be in the fishing action and also hold the boat.

It all really depends on what your plans are for the boat.


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flyboy, have you priced wet slips yet? my buddy keeps his 34 Luhrs at the shalimar yacht club and his storage charge is as much as his boat payment. just a thought to keep in mind for budget concerns.

I am very lucky in that I am in the military and will be keeping it at either Pensacola NAS or Eglin AFB....its VERY affordable and close to the pass....

 

Are there any slips available at this time?  You better give them both a call and see how long the waiting list is.

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Posted 9/30/2008 11:11:19 PM


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flyboy, have you priced wet slips yet? my buddy keeps his 34 Luhrs at the shalimar yacht club and his storage charge is as much as his boat payment. just a thought to keep in mind for budget concerns.

I am very lucky in that I am in the military and will be keeping it at either Pensacola NAS or Eglin AFB....its VERY affordable and close to the pass....

 

Are there any slips available at this time?  You better give them both a call and see how long the waiting list is.

Already done...Both places have 2 marinas and both have available spots

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Posted 9/30/2008 11:22:23 PM


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Harry, you're too smart for that boat on many levels. Keep what you've got or find diesels. And, I'm not even going to start on that model of Lures besides that its tippy.

There are many deals out there for a diesel powered boat of higher quality that will serve your needs.

Seriously, at 270 gallons, you're going to have an effective range of 135 miles at cruise. You will not be able to run to Petronis and troll all day then run home. 1200 hours on gas motors is way towards the end of the road.

Run, don't stall, but sprint away. Don't even waste money on the trip for a sea trial unless you're planning to sit her on the hill this winter and put in 300 hp yanmars.



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Posted 10/1/2008 6:38:42 AM


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Harry, you're too smart for that boat on many levels. Keep what you've got or find diesels. And, I'm not even going to start on that model of Lures besides that its tippy.

There are many deals out there for a diesel powered boat of higher quality that will serve your needs.

Seriously, at 270 gallons, you're going to have an effective range of 135 miles at cruise. You will not be able to run to Petronis and troll all day then run home. 1200 hours on gas motors is way towards the end of the road.

Run, don't stall, but sprint away. Don't even waste money on the trip for a sea trial unless you're planning to sit her on the hill this winter and put in 300 hp yanmars.

Xanadu, This is not Harry (although I know Harry and wish I had his boat) and I guess I am dumb on many levels....  I am not a Colonel and don't have his time or money.  SOOOO this type of boat is more in my league.  I too wish it had diesels, but that will have to wait.  I plan on running the gas for a couple of years and then convert them to diesels as I can afford.  I understand the range issue, but I don't run to the rigs.  Eventually I would like to occasionally go out there, but I mostly dive and sometimes bottom bump or troll from the edge to the nipple and slightly further.  Personally I would prefer an open boat but My wife and kids get a vote in this too and they love the layout of this boat and we believe it will fit our needs nicely.  I am not a true balls out hardcore fisherman(although my wife would disagree), rather I am family man who loves to fish and dive and take friends and family with me. By tippy I assume you mean top heavy, or perhaps has a bad snap roll. Have you ever ridden in this make and model, are you basing this on first hand experience?  I am not trying to start anything with you, quite the opposite I value your opinion and would love to hear what you have to say....I just don't want to hear that my brother-in laws first cousins sisters neighbor had a friend who told her about a boat that he bought and it was a lemon....you know what I'm saying. I look forward to more comments


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Posted 10/1/2008 7:05:57 AM


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Hal's comments are on......my wife and I considered that exact model and yr and sea trialed several.  We even revamped what we thought we wanted and sea-trialed several of the 32' express' with gas.  I even blew one up at legendary on a sea-trial that had less hours.

There are affordable diesels out there and the right deal will come along if you are patient.  With my first diesel boat, just so I could afford the diesels, I bought a partial submerged boat dirt cheap and reworked everything myself over the course of a yr.  I ended up with 42k total invested on a 36' Trojan with twin Cummins but didn't factor my yr of labor into the $ amount.  My goals at the time were almost identical to yours.  2 young kids that loved being on the water, wife wanted the comforts, I wanted to fish and dive....even kept it at NAS just like your talking about.

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Posted 10/1/2008 7:19:38 AM
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I agree with Xanadu. Find a DIESEL. A boat this size with gas is so limited in range that you will not be able to do what you want. I speak from experience. I had a 29 ft. Aquasport Tournament Master, sold it this summer, which is a smaller boat, but it had 300 gal. of fuel and twin 4 cyl. 240 Yanmar Diesels which were very frugal and would cruise at 22knts, loaded. With your bigger gas burning boat boat and less fuel, you are limited. To repower with diesel would be at least $50,000 to 75,000. My boat was repowered by a professional in 2003 and it was $50,000 than. Previous owner did that and I bought the boat in 2006 for $35,000 so there is an advantage to letting someone else do the repower.

In that size range you are going to find many diesels out there. Go to thehulltruth form and there is a wealth of information there. More so at boatdiesel.com. The later model Luhrs are really getting a bad reputation. There are 84 pages posted on that subject on one the aforementioned sites.

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