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i just got a bigger boat so i can run out a little bit further, so i'm trying to graduate from king mack and chikin dolphin to wahoo white marlin and so on. any secrets?
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| Fish the bottom contours ,find the bait, find the fish . Slow down and down size your baits, hooks, and leaders if you are targeting whites and sharpen hooks regularly. This time of the year more than regular Bait is key. Thats why the rigs pick up so good this time of the year they sense the cold weather coming and feed regularly. Most of the bait is migrating west . If targeting Wahoo pick up the pace a little and again find the bait. Rigs , contour, rips , temp changes, floating dabre, ect. focus on depths 250-600ft . And most of all go , you can not catch fish sitting home.
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sure enough, i have actually been running the nipple and the edge and have hung two wahoo off of that big yo zuri bonita, was kinda surprised but had a blast. i'm thinking about running to the petronius or marathon jacket area, maybe elbow, spur. i have the numbers but dont know what to do
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| Do the same thing you have been doing , sounds like you have had some luck. Yozuri bonitos are a great lure for wahoo . you can use manns stretch 30,50 also try some islander ballyhoo combos . If you find where they are it really doesnt matter they will hit just about anything at times. Keep going you will learn something different every time out . Also take someone who knows a little more than you, and you will learn different tactics..Im sure there are some guys on here that would love to go and share knowlege.......
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yeah i'm getting there, tryin to learn some tricks, and trying to upgrade king mack stuff to wahoo and what not. actually used an illander last week with ballyhoo. ran 3 flat off the back tryin to catch a white heard they were runnin this time of year, but got nothin, i guess you can runnem flat. even ran naked ballyhoo
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i wouldnt waste your time with naked hoos unless you're at a rig. offer to take someone out who honestly knows their shit on this forum (hint, there's not a whole lot) about bluewater fishing, and they'll teach you everything you need to know.
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sure enough, what are petronius producing right now other than tuna
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| SHARKS , there have been a few hoos caught but I would focus in shallower for wahoo. there are several rigs nw of there in about 200-500ft that are pretty good right now.
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good deal, do you have names, #s or are they easily found
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Apparently Blue Hoo doesn't white marlin fish a whole lot, If your fishing the nipple area in the fall a naked ballyhoo is agreat bait, and tackle rep does know his stuff, thats all good advice.
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appreciate it. another question, when running illanders with ballyhoo, do you runnem flat with trolling weights or what
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rubberband it to the reel handle off a flat line, or run it on a rigger.
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whats the rubberband fer.
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| The rigs are very easy to find you can see them from patron or mp255 the hiltons chart has them listed .You can buy that at just about any tackle shop. I also like Naked Ballyhoo for whites or a little squid skirt over it. But Slow down I like it 5-6 knots 6/0 7/0 med shank SHARP hook small-medium Bally 100-150 lb leader.
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gotcha, i sure appreciate it, i feel like an idiot asking these questions but i'm having to learn things step by step since i know noboby about the big water fishing, so i appreciate it.
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The band keeps the islander from jumping around, it stays in the water better
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gotcha
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i guess the band breaks when a fish nails huh?
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Yea use a number 64 rubberband and wrap it around the line then loop the band over the reel handle, make sure the line is in front of the handle so it doesn't catch, when a fish hits the band just breaks. It also gives a little bit of a dropback.
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gotcha, thanks a bunch
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No problem, we just use that for islanders
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good deal, thank you guys for learning me something. hopefully i'll see yall back on here to tell ya what me and the old boat got. i'd like to stay longer but i gotta another shift 2marrow. appreciate the advice.
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The tip on your standup rods is noodly and with the lure running from the tip, it causes the flex of the rod to pull you hoo out of the water and run like crud. This is true of just about any trolling lure pulled from the rod tip of a straight rod with a noodly tip. Also, the angle of entry to the water is changed making some lures run better. Some lures prefer to have some height so that they have more angle into the water and these are ones you'd usually pull from a rigger.
Anyway, I think you'd be better off fishing for whites with skirted ballyhoo on circle hooks than you would with J hooks and they'll last longer with the skirts and run at higher speeds. You should be able to run a google for skirted ballyhoo and find a good article from one of the magazines showing you how to do it. Personally, I prefer the copper wire method, but the rigging floss way is good too.
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Freespool (11/7/2007)
Apparently Blue Hoo doesn't white marlin fish a whole lot,
careful. it's no secret our team gets out there a whole lot. we consider whiteys more of a pest than anything because we're usually targeting blues on the troll, and thus dont downsize our terminal gear. if we did start using "snapper hooks," we would probably release much more whites than we do now. with our setups now though, whites come unbuttoned so damn easy. we really dont care for them too much.
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| How about his free sea temp software from NOAA, it should help find the rips/edges ect..
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yeah preciate it, saw you post it, probly check into it in a bit.
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I think I'll have to agree with Blue Hoo on his latest point. I too find it so irritating when after waiting weeks for a break in work and weather I finally get on the water and have my bait assaulted by those damned old white marlin This is one of the reasons that I now only pull super chuggers or bump troll live yft. as they also discourage mahi and hoos less than 100#. If you're looking for good sized hoos now try the area NW of petronious and the floaters. 255, 252, 259-a, Virgo and Spirit are all good and you should find some bouys on the shelf N of these last two if you can. Good luck.
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That has got to be one of the funniest posts I have seen. I hate thos pesky white marlin too HAHAHAHA  
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