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| I was talking about this with an elderly woman here in the shop a few weeks ago so I thought with all of garbo's mindscrambling topics I would see what responses I could get out of fellow fish murderers.
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| I've been faced with that question before. I read an article once that said if a hook hurt a fish they would swim towards the pressure and not away from it. I say that they are to damn dumb to do so and the survival instict kicks in and that's why they try to escape. If I had to guess.......yes it probably stings a little......hahaha
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i personally dont think it does, BUT i bet that gaff sure does
  
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Gotta figure they're eating pinfish, crabs and other objects with sharp, pointy spines or claws. That hook is just another pinfish prick to them.
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The hook only stings a little bit.....Its that cold hard fillet knife that really hurts them 
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| I had a treehugger come in the shop about 2 years ago and start to look around and look genuinely interested in fishing. I asked her if she needed help and she said "oh no I just wanted to see what its about". I asked her if she meant fishing in general and she responded " the torture of animals for sport". Needless to say we had some words with each other but I still get a laugh out of her last; "You know those hooks hurt them". I said "Maam if that makes them fight harder I'll put two hooks in that son of a b#@ch!"
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| I worried so much that the hooks were hurting the fish that I quit using them. Switched to spearfishing instead.
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| Ask PETA.... They told me fish are smarter than dogs.. I gave them the finger! From a link on their website: "Anatomically, physiologically and biologically, the pain system in fish is virtually the same as in birds and mammals. Neurobiologists have long recognized that fish have nervous systems that comprehend and respond to pain" ..... & they go on & on... "According to Dr. Michael Fox, D.V.M, Ph.D., Even though fish don't scream [audibly to humans] when they are in pain and anguish, their behavior should be evidence enough of their suffering when they are hooked or netted. They struggle, endeavoring to escape and, by so doing, demonstrate they have a will to survive."
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| I have a degree in zoology. Hooks DO NOT hurt fish. Fish do not have pain receptors as we humans do. They can feel pressure, but not pain. If someone threw out a hamburger with a hook in it, which way would you run? towards the pressure or away? I think that sums it up pretty well.
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I have a degree in zoology. Hooks DO NOT hurt fish. Fish do not have pain receptors as we humans do. They can feel pressure, but not pain. If someone threw out a hamburger with a hook in it, which way would you run? towards the pressure or away? I think that sums it up pretty well. I would stand and wonder what would happen when his neighbor found out he caught his dog on a rod and reel!
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That's the best answer I have heard all day. My answer to the confused tree huggers (that will be cowering behind us when the sh#t really hits the fan) is: "Who cares?! We are on top of the food chain for a reason, act like it!"
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Snapper
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| Not sure if hooks hurt fish, but I know they can feel an uppercut
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| It must hurt.....those long hard fights, especially if they swallow it. That's just cruel. I much prefer to provide a merciful, quick death, such as a five pronged head shot with my gig.
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Man, I hope so. If not, then a stainless steel stringer through the eyes will!
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| [qoute]My answer is: "Who cares?! We are on top of the food chain for a reason, act like it!"[/quote] Exactly!
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I keep reading responses on here and the only thing that comes to mind is "Who on here cares"
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almost as much as my 30-06 tingles them deer 
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I agree with the points made about fish feeling pain when hooked, look at what they eat, hook a doberman or most any other animal we can think of in the mouth and I bet they would lay down and not fight. The nervous system of fish probably does not register a hook as pain. Pain is also associated to memory. A few years ago, we released a sail in the Keys. It swam off straight to the live bait we had in the water and ate it with a vengence. I can't say the fish was hurt and certainly did not seem to remember what just got it in trouble. They must not have much memory.
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i hate treehuggers  Them ain't treehuggers, PETA folks are bunny squeezers or I reckon in this case.....fish squeezers?  Them folks that live in trees in Oregon are the tree huggers, LITERALLY! See what happens when you try to saw one down, they hold on REAL tight!
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Yeah I agree they probably just feel the pressure but to play devil's advocate why is it that if you hook a fish breifley that most species(damn sure not a cobia) won't bite again? Also, why would fish have poisonous barbs/fins as a defense mechanism if fish didn't feel pain in their mouth?
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| I imagine any living thing feels pain. But they are animals who cares.
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| I just thought about this: I think hooking fish is the same as us getting piercings. If hooks do hurt fish, the pain will probably go away, right?... like it does for us. Then they forget all about it. On a related topic, Remember Steevo (i think it was him) - he took a big fish hook and stuck it right on thru his cheek - LOL...
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If I slam a gaff behind their eyes, they forget about the hook..... Problem solved......
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I'm tired of the peta folks breaking my balls with all fish feeling pain talk. What about hunger pains? Life ain't fair. Does it hurt a surfer when a great white takes a chunk out of him? Holy jeez why don't we stuff the bait with vicodin to ease the pain. Hell, I'd never leave the dock .....i'd just scarf down the bait and never go fishing.
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| After watching cobia eat another jig as soon as he was able to get off another one even after being hooked 10 or 15 seconds, I don't think it bothers them too much.
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I bet it doesn't hurt any worse than being eaten alive which, since there is no retirement home for old fish, is about all they have to look forward to. I am sparing them from this fate and allowing them to pass away peacefully in the air conditioned comfort of my ice chest surrounded by their freinds and other members of their family.
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fisherick (8/20/2008)
I'm tired of the peta folks breaking my balls with all fish feeling pain talk. What about hunger pains? Life ain't fair. Does it hurt a surfer when a great white takes a chunk out of him? Holy jeez why don't we stuff the bait with vicodin to ease the pain. Hell, I'd never leave the dock .....i'd just scarf down the bait and never go fishing.
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| If you are ever compelled to actually have this conversation with a militant bunny-sniffer ( which will leave you mad as hell and frustrated with their unwillingness to see reason ) simply explain slowly and clearly that fish eat each other. Therefore, if they are capable of feeling pain then they clearly do not care if their fishy neighbor feels pain and then why should we. If humans are not supposed to eat meat because it hurts another animal breifly, but we need the proteins to survive and prosper, then that only leaves ourselves. And, this is key, note that meat eaters start the days meal with a vegan.
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