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Ruby Red Lip
      
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| Is drifting/slow trolling live baits (hard tails, cigars, etc.) that much more effective than trolling with stretches, dusters w/ dead cigs, etc.? Also, is trolling around the buoys about as good of a spot as any? I'm going out next week to give it a shot on my own for the first time and am just looking for a little advice from the "experienced ones"..... Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will post a report after I give it a shot next week. Good fishing!
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HARDTAILS ARE THE BEST BAIT IN MY OPINION. I HAVE CAUGHT PLENTY ON ARTIFICIALS BUT I PREFER LIVE HARDTAILS 10/1. MAKE A 30" LEADER OUT OF #7 SINGLESTRAND WITH A 4/0 LIVE BAIT THEN A #4 VMC TREBEL ABOUT 6" BACK FOR A STINGER .THERE ARE SOME GOOD THREADS ON MAKING KING RIGS IF YOU SEARCH. TO CATCH THE HARDTAILS TAKE A GREEN CRIPPLED HERRING 3/4 oz OR A SABIKI AND YOU CAN CATCH ALL THE BAIT YOU WANT. THE BOUYS AND RIGS ARE THE BEST BET IMO. GOOD LUCK!
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Ruby Red Lip
      
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| I have caught bigger fish on hardtails slow trolling or free lining but probably more smaller fish on dead cigars etc..Dont know if that helps ya or not...Good Luck.
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There are many ways to go after kings. If your looking to have a little fun and catch a few fish and not care about the size then live bait drifting around the buoys and mass will be your best bet. With all this rain, we've had the past few weeks the kings have moved out offshore, now there are still some in close, but not like it was 2 weeks ago.
Back to your question. Is trolling better than live bait. Yes and No, you should be doing both when king fishing. Drift a while to see if any kings will take your offering and if so then you don't need to troll. When drifting I use a few different techniques. I keep one bait on top free-lined out and another bait rigged with a small 2oz trolling weight to get it down a little while drifting. If I'm drifting then I usually only have 2 - 3 lines out at a time. Now when I'm trolling I have 4 rods outs. One with a Mann's stretch either the 25 or the 15 in Bonita color or sliver and Black, I also like the cabo sunset. On the other 3 rods I will have one bait with a small steel head blue and silver tormenter lure rigged with a live or dead cigar minnow. The other two rods are rigged with out skirts and one is trolled on top and the other with the trolling weight. This combo of rods have produced me some quality catches. Sometimes they hit the same rod over and over, but sometimes it's a mixture so I always keep a few different choices out there to keep all my basis covered. Now back to the best place to catch kings. If the buoys aren't producing well and you want to catch kings, head to the wreck 7 - 10 miles out. The water is a little cleaner and while you are drifting or trolling this area you can also drift the wreck from time to time for a limit of snapper. Sorry this is so winded, hope this helps. Good luck. Tight Lines...
------------------------- Capt. John Rivers 850-341-9816 Pensacola, Fl Mega-Bite Inshore Charters
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Ruby Red Lip
      
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| Capt. John, The report is not winded at all...it's all very good information and greatly appreciated. Thanks again!
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I think it just depends on what makes you happy. The greater majority of people I know are perfectly content catching snake kings, and I tend to do the most of that when I am pulling mylar dusters behind planers. However, I have done a bit more kingfishing lately just to keep myself entertained while the blue water is way offshore, and I have found that my bigger kings have been coming off of live hardtails. The cool thing about slow trolling live hardtails is that you will also slay your fair share of hooters and dorado, depending how far out you are. Labeled "bycatch" by some, mainly tournament kingfish anglers, it still provides some sweet action and great table fare.

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Trigger
      
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I have been fishing in King tournaments since about 1997 and can tell you that live or dead bait is the bait of choice. Professional kingfishers are know to pay big bucks for thier live baits. Around here the bait of choice is hardtails and silver eels (a.k.a. ribbon fish or cutlass fish). Slow trolled and oil rigs or some type of bottom structure. Thia time of year you can catch a smoker king within site of the beach, but most people will fish in >150 of water. However, if your not concerned with winning a tournament then dusters and other artificials with certianly catch them.
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