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Posted 7/1/2008 8:29:37 AM


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i use 15 and 20 andy back country off the pier. best line i ve used for that. hope this helps. you sould also try using a rod with lighter action. my 9 foot king rod is 15 to 25lb line. and it has a soft tip. my 8 foot king rod is 12 to 20lb line. you dont want anything too stiff or you could rip the hook out of its mouth. hope this helps

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Posted 7/1/2008 9:26:53 AM
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Someone who fishes the pier regularly can give you more detail but I think most of the guys out there use 15-17 lb mono to kingfish with. You just can't throw a cigar minnow with 30 lb. I don't know about braid but I would think some of them use that too, just for the casting distance.

bb, I guess I haven't kept up with some of the new fancy hooks and stuff for mackerel fishing, I'm sure they've made some advances with some products. We used the eagle claw 1/0 4x treble, it's the same one I and a few other people use to cobia fish with and have never had a problem with them bending or failing as far as I remember.

  I have noticed that some people are going to a 3 hook rig even with regular hardtails, seems to be working fine. Heck we caught a pile of fish on a single 6/0 long shank eagle claw we used to run as a short bait, the two biggest that I recall weighed 49.96 lbs and 54.40 lbs. All the other fish over 50 we weighed in tournaments were caught on the regular two treble rig. And we never did catch one over 50 on a big bait three treble rig for a bluefish/spanish, which kinda surprises me. One tournament I fished with Crieghton Parker we caught a pair of 50 lb twins one day the one we weighed was 52.80 and we fished with a #2 in the front and a #1 in the back, we finished second in the division that year with the smaller hooks and 25 lb line. I've seen people who were successful use REALLY big tackle and REALLY small tackle, whatever works best for your style I guess.  

Kinda get excited talking about mackerel tournaments again, too bad gas is so high, sure was a lot of fun.

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Posted 7/1/2008 9:56:20 AM


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no braid please. maybe for cobes but not kings. too many tangles and youd just get cut off with braid

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Posted 7/1/2008 10:15:37 AM
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Light, light, light, pressure. (especially when you get the fish near the boat). Light pressure will also keep the king near the surface.
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Posted 7/1/2008 10:35:54 AM


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Backlash, as you know, there is a ton of experience on this forum and most are willing to offer up advice on how it's done.......a couple of yrs ago there is no way I would have offered up how I was rigging for tournaments on a open forum but that's kind of changed.  As we started to place in a few, consistently get better and have fun, so did my view towards tournament fishing.

I started just like you in the corner of a charter boat and on the pier trying to find what works.  Try things out, see what works the best for you and most importantly, the way you enjoy it the most and within your budget.

There is really no all knowing best way to do this stuff.  I've seen guys go out there and catch the biggest king of their life using a 9/0 with braid, 100# mono leader and 9/0 circle that beat every fish caught in a tournament happening the same day.  Sometimes it's just your day......

Matt, when I first started this we we're no where near the level you and Rag-Tag we're at and I still started to get bored with the tournaments and prepping.  I really don't like all of the whispering, two faced deception stuff that's still going on around the tournaments but it's part of it, I just choose not to be that way.

My partner and I made some changes a few yrs ago and now I still get excited just prepping for tournaments.  My partner and I kinda took a different approach to kingfishing the last two years that has made a huge difference for us.

We don't fish against other teams anymore and trying to beat a specific team or find out what or where a certain angler is going.... We fish against ourselves and how we did before, we also both started fishing a lot more with our daughters and they are now our primary anglers.  It's gotten to the point that I would be happy with never touching a rod again and watching my daughter on the bow with a big fish.  Because of this, I get alot more time to watch what's working and what's not and how I can do things better.

For whatever reason, with the changes we've made, we have seen some of the biggest fish and consistently more large fish coming to the boat than we've ever seen before.

now that we've finally found a combination that works well for us and we're having fun at it, it's getting so expensive that we can't hardly afford to do it.  I'm seeing fewer boats in just about every tournament so far this year.  I'm just hoping that we can continue to do what we're doing with our kids for at least a few more years but I just don't see it happening short of one of us winning the lottery.

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Posted 7/1/2008 10:49:28 AM
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Scott very well put and thanks for taking the time to give everyone on here advice....and also congrads to all of your teams accomplishments......

backlash as Scott said find what works for you and the more your out on the water or pier, the more you will learn....good luck and i hope to meet you down there one day......tight lines and good day

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Posted 7/1/2008 10:58:40 AM
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I hear ya! It is very expensive, I haven't fished one in a couple years now. Maybe in the future it will become more cost effective, sure was a lot of fun.

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