Ok, jumping off of my soapbox now...... carry on.

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15% isn't exactly a stunning tip, and how much would you suggest a waiter be paid?

you of course realize you are only talking about raising the total cost of your meal enough to pay the increase, the owner of the restaurant isn't sitting on a pile of gold he can just jack up pay scales with. I don't know any good waiters who would be happy about being paid hourly in lieu of tips, it would be a tremendous pay cut for the really good ones. I have seen places in New Orleans where the waitstaff wouldn't get paid anything on the clock and often bribed the front of house manager for good shifts and sections, not only are they not getting minimum wage they are paying to work there...

ok, i walked into this old truckstop, the meal was good, but the waitress sat on her ass bitching about "f-ing" drivers, never leave any good tips, cursing and putting down my bro's at the wheels, almost drops my plate on the table...STILL bitchin to the other waitress's WHILE at my table...guess i'm cheap cause she didn't make a buck off me.  same place a month later, in the days that it WASN'T acceptable to have a male waiter, i had one.  i didn't feel right cause i was used to a lady taking care of me and with only seeing the road thru a bug coated windshield, i wanted to see a cutie...so i wasn't in favor of a guy serving me.  i have to admit, he busted his ass better than any lady, kept a great attitude, even while he was getting shit from drivers, and made some serious money in the hour i was there.  now, i prefer waiters over waitress's because of that reason.

if someone's on that kind of job and dont enjoy it, they should move on, BUT...if they do, it'll show and everyone will see it and "most" will prove they see it.  i hope that makes sense.

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my dad is the worst tipper in the world.  no matter how much the bill is $2.  my ex wife used to bitch when we would go to dinner with him.  she spent a lot of years waiting table getting through school.  that is the only thing she taught me that i remember.

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the current Florida minimum for servers is $3.77 an hour for tipped employees and $6.79

 an hour for everyone else, they assume even the very worst tipped employee can earn

the additional 3 dollars an hour. If someone is working as a server and making anywhere

near minimum wage they should quit or be fired because either the restaurant or the

server is lousy. Why not just pay everybody fifty bucks an hour?

so I hear all the horror stories...Allthough I have gone to eat at a steakhouse here (which shall remain nameless) and the steak and service I recieved were so good I asked my waitress to take a 10$ tip straight to the cook for my steak because it was perfect. (He later came out to chat with us and ask if anything could have made the meal he prepared any better) as a young up and comming chef he did quite well.

Our waitress/ waiter allways asks do you need anything for your steak....Our reply " Not if its cooked right"

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I guess my question is, should I tell the server that i'm leaving the tip on the card or will they know?  Sometimes I'll even leave a small tip on the table and another tip on my card.

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In north Tulsa which is the 'hood' for those who do not know the area. I once had 17 deliveries in a row, it was snowing and not 1 penny tip.

Living off tips teaches you to pay for service, also to spot the non tippers. A crack dealer covered in bling and ho's will tip big to impress the 'ladies'. Same guy would give you nothing if alone.

I never stooped to what some of my fellow delivery drivers did (but was sorely tempted): $1 worth of pennies thrown on a non-tippers lawn will get his attention next time he mows I am told.

If you cannot afford to eat out and tip for service, don't go. Eat at home: and if you get a pizza delivery in the snow/rain/heat tip the guy too.

I will say pizza guys always make out when they come to my house.  If we do order pizza I normally go pick it up, but if by chance I dont then it's 4-5 bucks.  I always feel bad for them and can't see myself giving less then $4 even though my bill wont be anymore than 15. 

By the way I mean pizza guys always make out on T-I-P-S nothing else jackasses

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typically I tip 15% though.  on a smaller bill I'll tip a little more.  And when I goto the small diners where there's one waiter busting her butt I'll tip her far more than 15%.  She's waiting twice the tables than Applebees (or wherever) with no food delivery person or whatever.  And her bill is usually smaller so a 15% would be less than Applebees for more work.

I noticed a FEW things but will not respond to them. ONE I will respond to is Bill, Just above me. You may be right about they think they have 18% COMING TO THEM. One thing though, Let the manager know you HAD SHITTY SERVICE. No excuse for that.

AND FINALLY, Give me a frigging break about some server pissed about what someone left them. SOMETIMES it happens and yes you have cheap MF's. The servers work there arses off to please a customer, or at least that is what I have noticed in our resturant. Yes, the oldest or more senior servers get the best tables but there is a reason why, SERVICE. You can't have a table of 25 going out of the door unhappy and telling everyone how shitty the service was. Then newbies will get the 2 tops and work there way up.

Here is what REALLY grips my goat though. This post was posted about someone not tipping a server WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN. I have 4 tip %'s: 10,15,20 and NONE. All based on the SERVICE, not the food. They food will help the server make more money but service in the key to me.

I hate to hear a server talk about tippers. I'm a cook and I do it because I LOVE TO DO IT. It pisses me off though to hear about a server talking about a $20 tip on a $150 check. HELL dude, I have to work over 2 hours to make that much. In that 2 hours I have put out over 100 plates of food. You waited on 20 tables during that time frame and racked in about $150 in tips, lets go low and say $100.  Well, you made $100 and I made $20.

HELL, One instance is at the ALLEN JACKSON concert. NO server made less the $200 and the BEST made over $400 in tips on a 5 hour shift. HELL, I have to work a week and a half to make that much. SO, All you complain about tips REALLY need to say how much you REALLY make.  I don't mind tipping bar tenders but I be damned if I am gonna tip you a $1 for every beer you bring me.

Just ask APRIL (birdnest daughter), She knows that she is gonna get $5 to $10 bucks every time, depends on how many beers I drink. WHY, Well, 1st of all I NEVER have to ask for a beer. I walk in the door and she knows what I drink. She PAYS ATTENTION and has one sitting beside me when I only have 1 inch of beer left in the bottle. I don't even have to order my food, After two times she knows What I eat and WHEN I want it. KNOW THAT IS SERVICE. Not bringing out my water and food.

Off my soap box because I'm getting pissed thinking about it.

Telling folks to stay home on mothers day because they don't tip good. What they hey.

Saying they crawl from out under the rocks on Mothers day, Again what the hey. I guess you just gave the best service with THAT TYPE OF ATTITUDE.

You give me shitty service I give you a shitty tip IF ANY.

Also I don't tip as much at buffet joints, if I'm getting my own food and all you do is tell me where to sit and check on my drink every now and then you won't get a 15% tip from me. Call me a cheap bastard if you want.

I agree with that, they will pick up the book with cash in it and without even opening

 it and ask "you need change back?" that pisses me off, just go off and bring me back

 my change and I'll leave you a very nice tip. If I'm not there when you get back then I

didn't need change back.

 Im with you. I work extremely hard for my money and spend a LOT of money on my tools and stuff just so I can work and support myself and my family. Waiters and waitresses dont work that hard at least in my eyes. I worked through college on tips so I know how it all works, yeah you have to put up with ass holes and ppl not leaving any tips at all but thats all part of the job. If you put effort into making the customer feel good and happy about being there on top of bringing their food and drinks it would be a lot better. If I see that you dont care then I dont care either. Theres always that job you can go get elsewhere that doesnt pay in tips. I dont think they should have that percentage rule, then maybe the waitresses and waters will actually work for their money instead of just expecting to get what they feel they "deserve".

Scary stats:

a. The number of physicians in the US is 700,000.
b. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year is 120,000.
c. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171. (US Dept. of Health &Human Services)

Then consider this:

a. The number of gun owners in the US is 80,000,000 (Yes... eighty million!).
b. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is 1,500.
c. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188.

Statistically, doctors are about 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

FACT:

NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS A DOCTOR .

Alert your friends to this threat. We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand.