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| I am a pier fisherman, and love it(googan if you want) but the reasoning here doesn't make sence....he in the boat did infact break the law by being to close to the pier(permission or not)get the boat # and report it......You (the ones slinging the jigs) also broke the law... not just a bullshit law most likely a felony.... Lets say for example....you the pier person... ran a red light which is breaking the law, but you inconvenienced someone by that act, so they decided to shoot a few rounds by your head to send a message to you...... would that be right?.....or OK? lets say it was me....and I'm such a good shot with a pistol that I feel I could give you a pierced ear if I wanted!!! that would be OK... wouldn't it?....I'm so good you would never be in any danger.... I never miss... Even though it would be breaking a similar law as throwing a missle or projectile that can kill... if it where to hit someone.....but wait you are so good theres no danger of that....as there would be none if I were to shoot a few rounds by your head....I'm so good.. no danger there!!!!....I'm kinda surprised that something like this hasn't already happened!!!! Don't whine when someone returns fire...you won't be in any danger...its just a warning....no danger Please explain what would be the difference? it should be just fine... you would never be in any danger!!! I'm that good....and I am a pier fisherman and a darn good shot!! what gets me is... how many just stand by and let it happen....saying nothing....wtf Yea he was in the wrong....but that doesn't make it ok for the others at all
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Why do you think you so freaking special he can't???
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ironman172 (5/7/2008)
I am a pier fisherman, and love it(googan if you want) but the reasoning here doesn't make sence....he in the boat did infact break the law by being to close to the pier(permission or not)get the # and report it......You (the ones slinging the jigs) also broke the law... not just a bullshit law most likely a felony.... Lets say for example....you the pier person... ran a red light which is breaking the law, but you inconvenienced someone by that act, so they decided to shoot a few rounds by your head to send a message to you...... would that be right?.....or OK? lets say it was me....and I'm such a good shot with a pistol that I feel I could give you a pierced ear if I wanted!!! that would be OK... wouldn't it?....I'm so good you would never be in any danger.... I never miss... Even though it would be breaking a similar law as throwing a missle or projectile that can kill... if it where to hit someone.....but wait you are so good theres no danger of that....as there would be none if I were to shoot a few rounds by your head....I'm so good.. no danger there!!!!....I'm kinda surprised that something like this hasn't already happened!!!!Don't whine when someone returns fire...you won't be in any danger...its just a warning....no danger Please explain what would be the difference? it should be just fine... you would never be in any danger!!! I'm that good....and I am a pier fisherman what gets me is... how many just stand by and let it happen....saying nothing....wtf Yea he was in the wrong....but that doesn't make it ok for the others at all Dang Bill you took the words right out of my mouth. What makes it alright to hurt someone else. Dont quite have that part figured out yet?
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| P.S. To TMASS: You are correct...I did weigh it on the boat, while trying to stay outta the pilings, back the boat up, rocking in the waves and wind, and getting cussed out by a bunch of guys who came from where they were fishing AT THE END OF THE PIER, with a bouncing scale.....i did the best I could...if you hadn't been so concerned with FOLLOWING the lead of a bunch of BAD EXAMPLES (you are young, I recommend finding better role models than those....just an opinion, don't get all huffy over it, okay?) you would probably be thinking clearly enough to admit that I could not possibly have gotten a good read on the boat...I also said that it was "bouncing above 75....BUT GUESS WHAT BUDDY!!!!>.....I dooooooooon't care..tell ya what...let's call it a 20 pounder for all I care...come on... As for the comment re: they coulda just been fishing, not throwing on your boat...well okay, maybe you are right...and maybe you think that b.s. makes sense...but if that is the case, then I apologize sincerely to all of those nice fellas on the pier who would never do something so dangerous..Know this, smart guy, they threw a line across my boat, with the intention of injuring me, my fishing buddy, and/or my boat...and the more I gotta wait around for somebody to be a man and come out n say they were the tough guy that did it, the more inclined I am to just let em go to jail....In addition, if I broke a law, I will gladly pay the price...but no one on that pier had a right to put me, my friend, or my boat in jeopardy, AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW IT. this was my final response on this issue. thanks to all of you for your input, including those who do not agree with me.
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| Whoever threw a jig at the boat should get a felony charge. Throw the punk ass kids in jail for a couple of days, maybe they won't do something that stupid again. Navigation rules are superseded by personal endangerment.
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I know what "shouldn't" have happened. Doesn't excuse the actions of those casting at him....period. You condone that? You think it's right? You willing to hit someone with a jig and take the consequences? I assure you, there will be....
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He was F***ing excited.....he knew it was a big fish, can't anyone be sportsman like? He wanted to weigh his fish, he knew it was BIG.....what the hell. I would have loved to see it. I was at the pier fishing for pomps, and wondered why someone was anchoring on the beach. Guess I know now.
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He never said he was special. He was going to walk the fish up the beach down to the peir and weigh it. When he called the peir to see if it was ok they told him don't do that just drive up and we will lower down a scale. He did what he was told to do . How hard is that for you guys to understand. If it was my first ever cobe I'd want to weigh it to.One day ya'll are going to throw lead at someone and their going to fire hot lead back at you. Hopefully their a good shot!!!
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JHOGUE (5/7/2008)
MAN IM GOOD............ I NEW THE SECOND I SAW A BOAT RUN ALL THE WAY FROM THE PASS TO CATCH SPANISH IN FRONT OF THE PIER, I NEW THAT THEY WERE MEMBERS OF THE "PFF"  LET ME START BUY AGREEING WITH FREESPOOL YOUR AN IDIOT, OH YEAH I WAS THERE AND I WATCHED YOU COME UP AND WEIGH YOUR FISH FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER!!!!!!!!! WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT ABOUT HAVING THE WEIGHT RIGHT THAT MOMENT . IF SOME ONE REALLY WANTED TO HIT YOU THEY WOULD HAVE GOT A FREE ROD OUT OF THE TEE TOP OR HIT YOU!!!!!!!! BUT THEY WERE NOT JUST THROWING LIKE "GOGANS"  YOU SPENT MORE TIME TRYING TO ANCHOR YOUR BOAT THAN YOU DID FISHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont know you but you seem like a pier rat cocksucker.. i can understand u bein a lil upset bout the closeness but chunkin jigs or whatever is a pretty scabby kneed move.. next time someone invades your "zone", just think about what a moron youll look like by casting lures at him. save ur milk money and buy a boat and u can fish the entire gulf coast for cobes. he may not have been in the right for "parkin" where he did but yall dudes on the pier have kept me off of the end of that thing for quite some time. yall are like a lil mini mafia, except for the fact you have no money or class.. have fun buddy..
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| the only way to fix this... is to ban who ever it was from the pier for the rest of the year...that would send a message to the rest....and if it happens again ban some more, who ever does this crap should not be allowed on the pier....and I don't care how Good you think you are. This person needs identified and the proper actions should be taken by the pier Ban Him or them !!!!!
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Freespool (5/7/2008)
I take offense when yall say that everyone on the pier is an ahole. I do not throw at boats, I do not run people over, neither do 99 percent of guys out there. I fish the pier and boat so that is not an issue. All boats hwo know whats up give the pier a little room. Do not call me an ahole because you have never met me and don't know me. I try to be a stand up guy as much as possible I take offense when your right there doing nothing when someone is breaking the law like that!!!give me a break.... your almost as guilty as him or them
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| Okay, I guess I should come back one more time to POST THE PICS... sorry for the delay, and here they are.
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I have seen guys throw jigs at surfers and or anything or anyone that gets to close to the pier. It is just a matter of time before someone gets hit in the side of the head by a jig and gets killed. To me the pier should add a rule if caught throwing at a boat or person they are kicked off the pier. The pier has rules yes, but how many people have been out on the pier and seen other illegal things going on. I will just say this I would hate to see them bring a drug dog on the pier to bust some of you punk ass kids.
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ahahahah yeah..... i agreee....but damn nice fish BTW!!!
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So why even throw near him. Oh I forgot thats the cool thing to do.
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JHOGUE, If you had read my original post you would know that did not run the beach by the pier to catch Spanish...I was coming in to eat, like I do quite often when winds are favorable, at the Dock. Burger and a beer is all I was after. I had a chest of nice Kings, and a few other fish. We were done for the day. Let it go, man. It's gonna be okay .As for me being an idiot....I'm not the dumbass who committed a FELONY bc he was mad over someone else catching a freat fish. Go away.
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Freespool (5/7/2008)
IF someone gets caught hitting a boat. They will get banned. Jerry was right there and told everyone to not hit him, noone did.I don't give a crap if Jerry was there, it is breaking the LAW.....you just don't get it!! do you? Now your starting to sound stupied.
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| Those are some nice pic's of the fish!!!!(alittle small) congrat's that was awesome But I for one would like to see the pic's or video of the people slinging the jigs at you!!!
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Get your story straigh freespool. You said earlyer that he was close enough to piss on, now you don't really know how close he was.
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Freespool (5/7/2008)
He was close enough to piss on. I was saying I do not know exactly how close lures landed to him. He pulled up right under melets see if i have this straight....saw how close he was since he was right under you but dont know who threw at him....then you dont know how close people got to hitting him becasue you were looking for fish, but said boat was right underneath you?? (que the tap dance music) i wanna see you tap dance some more...its funny to watch you change your story every post
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Were you cobia fishing or "catching bait and messing with spanish" ?
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| ok, I have been watching you two go back and forth...it's cool but enough is enough. In war, both sides think they are right and can usually defend their position. I also think that you have been somewhat inconsistent Freespool, but that is only my opinion. The point is, this isn't going anywhere..we are men, we agree to disagree, and that should be it. Ironman, thank you for backing me up, Freespool, sorry bout the pier "incident"...I didn't plan it...but I am sure that does not matter to you. You might be interested to know that I have also fished the pier for years, and have my opinions of some of those individuals who go "overboard". I do not disrespect or disparage anyone here...simply saying it isn't that big a deal....is it?
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Freespool (5/7/2008)
How has it changed? let me know and I will straighten it out. YES i saw the boat underneath my feet it was hard to miss since he drove straight to the pier. I then resumed cobia fishing. people from down the pier threw at him but I do not know exactly how close they landed. Is that clear enough?One minute people are just fishing, now they were throwing on him You should be in politics!!! your story changes almost every post
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| Freespool, you did not enjoy being called names? Are you serious? What did you refer to me as...an idiot or something like that...inconsistent is exactly what you were. Sad thing is, you could have made a good argument. With credibility out the window, however, that is difficult to do. I am glad Ironman was defending me here, bc he was the sharper knife in this fight... NOW, like I said, let's move on with our lives .
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I agree with what you say freepool. Just because you have one bad apple on a tree it does not mean the whole tree is bad. I was just having fun bustin your balls tonight.
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I deleted my posts because we are not going to get anywhere on this forum.
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| yes, I agree that we are not getting anywhere...what was your hope in posting what you did? You talked about pissing on my boat, saying that the reason you didn't was that you didn't have to go at the time? I know you are kidding with your buddy, but you are disrespecting me at the same time. You want to leave now because I asked you about calling me an idiot...well, you did. ..yet you complain about being called names? You fail to give the same respect to others that you demand from others. You are not capable of making a good argument, so you should stay away. The reason that I did not jump in tonight on you is that I would never fight a battle of wits with an unarmed person. I did you a favor asking you to let it go earlier. You can be right , and we will all be wrong, and that should be it. Okay now...we're done.
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Wow, this turned into 3 pages of crap real quick.
I dont care if the Florida lottery had my millions on the pier, I aint getting close to that thing in my boat. And heck, I consider myself a novice when it comes to saltwater boating.
And then the pier folks tried to kill him, nice..... Love it when two stupid people get together, you just have to stop and watch, almost like watching a train wreck.
I have been to the pier in Pcola once to fish, didnt have a good time, most folks were nice enough but the few there that were idiots ruined it for me. Never coming back.
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Guy went to the pier to weigh a fish. Called and got "permission". It was good enough for "Jerry", why not the rest of you? Granted, I'd weighed it elsewhere, too much trouble to pull in that close to an object bobbing around. But, I get tired of the "I am GOD...I fish on the pier!!" attitude. I got news for you, not that I would put myself in that position, but, you hit me or mine with a jig....I promise, you ain't walking home on your own power. Period. Ya'll spout alot of threats. You got the easy part done....running that mouth. Got anything else???? And, yes, I am addressing JHOUGE and his fearsome friend, Freespool. Ya'll talk alot of shit. Be carefull, they is always someone willing to put up rather than shut up.... dude SHUT UP! you know you aren't going to do anything to jeremy hogue...nobody will let that happen...why don't YOU come out to the pier and talk shit to every pier rat out there?? nobody is trying to call you out...so don't call anybody else out, because remember "there is always someone willing to put up rather than shut up..." everyone on the pier and their little sister has freespools and jhogue's back soooo if all this upsets you soo much then go out to the T and tell everyone the way that you feel!
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I stand by what I said. Read it close asswipe. You condoning hitting people with jigs or whatever? You expect anybody to stand by and not do something about it? Goes for you too...
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