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RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

true-king — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:30:36 GMT

[quote][b]Backlash (6/28/2008)[/b][hr]Yall wernt kidding about pokeing your finger, that crap hurts:reallycrying

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agreed

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Strictly Bizness — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:58:10 GMT

i have used the EZ Twist tool (looks like a silver bullet) for years. i have probably tied a thousand rigs with that tool. it does take some practice and some concentration on the amount of pressure you apply but hang in there. i wouldn't tie a king rig without one.

backlash- i will be making up rigs every night this week.(getting ready for the ADSFR) you are more than welcome to come over and get some tips.

-shane

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Backlash — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:46:15 GMT

Thanks for the tips Bluff, will try some more after work,

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

bluffman2 — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:37:08 GMT

backlash try this.....a great rigging guy showed me this and it works, it will eventually get easier to do by hand.....this leaves no sharp point to prick your finger with...

[img]http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9259/000xh8.jpg[/img]

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Backlash — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:21:39 GMT

Yall wernt kidding about pokeing your finger, that crap hurts:reallycrying

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RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

BJW — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:59:46 GMT

Agree with several of the posts above: practice

But, to try to help you, remember this: twist, then wrap

The first few twists are just that: twists. Hold the two crossed ends with the pliers as show in the photo above and make sure they cross at a 90 degree angle. Then twist them evenly together.

Then you finish with wraps, where one end is wrapped around the other.

The really neat trick is to break off the tag end rather than cutting it. After the wraps you make a 90 degree bend in the tag end about an inch from the wraps. Then bend this back and forth. The wire will break right at the last twist and will not leave a small end sticking out to grab your hand. If you cut it rather than bend and break it will leave a small end sticking out that will rip you hand open.

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

John B. — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:00:28 GMT

send me a PM the next time you go to the pier... i'll meet you out there and by the end of the day, you'll be tying perfect haywire twists....

it takes alot of practice....

i can tie singlestrand perfect just about every time, even the real big stuff....

now, seven strand.... it's a bit tricky with the small stuff (18#, 27#)... don't EVER EVVEEERRRR use 40# sevenstrand.... it's big enough to where it usually doesn't fit between the mack's teeth, yet small enough to where they can cut it... i personally will only use 60# sevenstrand, for a few reasons,

it's easy to tie,

it's big enough to where MOST OF THE TIME kings won't cut it,

when snobling baits, the sevenstrand has a bit of 'play' in it, (not as stiff as singlestrand) and IMHO gives your bait a better action,

and it is big enough that it usually deters spanish and juvy kings from eating your bait....

when it comes to singlestrand, i usually wrap 3-4 loose twists, then follow up with 8-9 tight twists, there is also a process that you can do to the tag end, where you twist it a cetain wayand it will break off clean, so you don't have to clip it and leave wire that pricks you in the fingers(admit it, it's happened before :poke)

sevenstrand, i will tie one overhand knot, and then go straight to 10-12 tight wraps... then clip. I use this method on everything from 18# to 135# ... (any bigger than that, there is a way to braid the wire, it is pretty neat, and works extremely well on 400# and 800# sevenstrand, and it's way stronger than crimps)

if anyone wants to learn these, i'd be more than happy to show them, as it is pretty difficult to explain without showing someone in person

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

true-king — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:11:30 GMT

I tried one of those too. It was way harder to do it with the device than by hand.

Just keep practicing, your haywire twists will get neater.

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

reelfinatical — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:56:51 GMT

[quote][b]ditchdoctor81 (6/27/2008)[/b][hr]Nice looking knot. I have never used the metal things they sell at stores to tie them....do they work pretty good?[/quote]

Those gadgets suck. We bought one quite awhile ago & tried using it but it just sucked to put it lightly. (my opinion of it)

Practice & you should find yourself getting better & better at it. http://www.florida-offshore.com/content-74.html = another How To with pics as well.

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

bluffman2 — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:34:38 GMT

watch these....maybe they will help ya....Stephen

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNx8BbFOqKI

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qS5cLigDKDE

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Backlash — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:31:12 GMT

no, i dont think the tie things work, mine look just as bad useing

it as if i had hand tied it:sick

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RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

ditchdoctor81 — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:51:46 GMT

Nice looking knot. I have never used the metal things they sell at stores to tie them....do they work pretty good?

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Backlash — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:29:17 GMT

But i want to fish sunday morning come day break at P'cola

pier, got to get it by then, guess i will cut the hardwear off

and start over ??:banghead

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

bluffman2 — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:26:11 GMT

backlash

practice practice practice......i still cant make it like that every time......youll get the hang of it!!!

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Backlash — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:18:18 GMT

Got the twesty tool, didnt help much, tied about 10, they

look like crap, hope they hold ?? useing single strand line 32#,

40lbs swivels, but mine dont look anything like the ones

above ??

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

SheYakFishr — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:03:48 GMT

Danggggg Bluff... that is an awesome looking knot!! I'll have to try that next time!!!

Thanks! :clap

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

bluffman2 — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:54:13 GMT

try this way...may help...it did me

[img]http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/RedPhillips/000.jpg?t=1206287679[/img]

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

true-king — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:41:37 GMT

What are you having trouble with? Here's some instructions: http://www.pierfishingguide.com/Haywire_Twist.html

RE: Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

hebegb — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:25:03 GMT

those little twisting devices they sell make it foolproof!

Haveing trouble tieing a haywire knot

Backlash — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:22:03 GMT

Any tips on tieing a haywire knot ???