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Grouper
 
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I very much enjoyed reading this thread. Some very good info was given and some of it humorous. 
With attitude, he said, "What could that possibly be?"
And I said, "Get your ass off my boat!"
He hasn't been back.
I would not discuss this on the boat out in the water. To tight of quarters when/If the s#*t hits the fan.
Rather make a sheet that show ALL expenses that the boat costs for a days fishing. Have that in hand and have a sit down with him.
This should include EVERYTHING!
Boat payment
Boat Insurance
Trailer registration
Boat registration
as well as the fishing expenses
As claim the economy as to why you can't continue with this on your back alone.
You also had said he borrows your tools. Here's my rule:
Does the person have good morals?
Does the person know how to operate the tool?
Does the person have the financial ability to go out and buy you a Brand new tool if they break it?
If the answer is NO to any of those questions, then they don't get the tool. Period!
I have a standing rule.
"Don't bring it back Broke!" And I don't want to hear any excuses.
I feel for your situation and understand helping someone, but when I hear attitude and Pie in the Sky dreams like "when I win the Lottery."
I get pissed off too.
The Lord help's those that helps themselves.
If you can't help yourself, then I can't help You.
I found your statement about having to leave the boat ramp to go buy him [out of your pocket] disgusting.
He knows he needs a license. But then you said out of state and that threw me a little.
Does he live out of state, or did you guys leave Florida and he then needed a out of state license?
Regardless, he knows he need a license. He had no money on him at all? Did he think the license fairy was just going to drop one in the boat for him. Oh', that's right he treats you as the money fairy.
Make the change -- Take the stand. This whole deal will only fester and ONE day you will just Blow up and he will not have a clue where it came from or what he did.
It's now on you to change the situation and show him the way that "Upstanding people" live.
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"Just cause it's new, doesn't mean it's worth a Damn."
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Custom 23ft Mako Pilothouse w/ twin DF-140 Suzuki's
162 Scout w/ C-90 Yamaha
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Mingo
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Mingo
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| First I would say if you have never said that you expected him to share in the cost and he is not a "boat person" he may truly be ignorant of the situation. He may have also assumed that if family was expected to share in the expenses that your wife would have said something to HER sister. Not that it's the way I view the world but still a possibility. That said I would proceed as follows........... 1) Invite him over for a "boat party" to clean and wax the boat (you provide the beer and food). Have another buddy "help"(he is the plant) have your buddy hand you big wad of cash in front of you brother-in-law and proclaim "here is what I owe you from the last fishing trip". Take the opportunity to tell your brother-in-law that since it has gotten so expensive that EVERYONE will now be "expected" to pay their share. 2) Have your wife tell her sister the SHE expects HER and her husband to share in the cost since it has gotten so expensive. You can have her explain that most people do it this way and you were just being generous in the past. 3) When you go out again have your "buddy" ask the brother-in-law if he knows how much he owes you for "his share" and then have him pay you in front of the brother-in-law. If he doesn't take the hint he's not going to. Then it will be a case of do you keep letting him and his wife feeload or basically confront them and tell them they are no longer welcome on the boat. I do not have a boat at the coast so when I come down I go out with a friend who lives in Fairhope. I have gone out with him several times and have always picked up my share of food, bait etc.....but he always has fueled the boat and when I have offered to pay he has refused it. Last time I was at his place he had to work the morning we were going to go out so with nothing to do other than cruise Fairhope, fish the pier or watch TV I spent almost 6 hard hours and removed everything from his boat, washed it inside and out(including the bilge and the anchor locker) and repacked it. It was the least I could do seeing as how I had messed it up as much as him in the last couple of months. The difference is I may actually understand what it takes to keep up a boat.
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White Marlin
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Curtis, now your problem can be solved, invite him to join this forum and point him to this thread....you won't have to say one more word about the problem.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm a Sagittarius...If you don't want to hear the truth then don't ask my opinion!
Then again I'm a "Vacuous Asshat" Political Correctness:
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Sailfish
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Ron I have thought of that. He has friends on the forum, and I was somewhat bashfull about it before the origional post due to there is a possiblilty that could happen, by someone knowing who he is, if it hasn't already.
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Mingo
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| Before you two go out again just have a talk with him and tell him like it is , Gas is $4.00 a gallon , Bait is so much , ice is a bunch , TACKLE is a BUTTLOAD, fuel in the truck , Food, drinks, gear, wear & tear on the boat, Motor and trailer . Be honest and don't sugar coat it, it would also be best if the conversation was in front of your wife and his so everyone is on the same page. If he can't figure it out after that ..................Loose him.
Lesterwww.aluminumalloyboats.com Got Alloy , Got wood
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