jigmaster

You are correct about having to use even more of the e-10 up to 20% more ethanol to go the same distance. Not to mention a noticeable loss is horse power. Also as tax payers the fed Govt. is paying a .50 cent per gallon subsidy. So you guessed it! It's hardly actually going green. In fact with e-10 we will go broke and broke down.

Not to mention Berkeley, conducted a study finding Ethanol was just as or more so damaging to the environment as MTBE.

T140

Outstanding post, confirmed what I thought.

1pescadoloco

Great job. Probably too late for my lawn equipment but the Yamaha on my new 2005 Pathfinder will never see ethanol as long as I can find gas without it. Local Yokel here I come

FlicPig

Great post and report. With the information that you got from it, I'm pretty sure you just saved yourself hundreds, even thousands of dollars.

While we can personally save ourselves and our equipment if we don't use ethanol, I'm afraid we can't stop other people from using it. This is especially true in some states wherein pumps are not obliged to disclose that they're using ethanol. With ethanol's contribution to greenhouse gases (19% more than unleaded gasoline), your favorite fishing spot may be gone in a few years.

Source: alcohol fuel

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TONER

what about starbrite enzyme I just saw it at walmart it sounds good did you test it thanks

pueblowestdude

Here in the state of colorado, there are no gas stations with pure gas that I know of. Even our marina got it's last batch of pure gas. So is it ok run fuel from airport which is called 100LL? I have run it in everything from motorcycles to lawn mowers and string trimmers and yes my boats 1997 johnson 60hp 2stroke and Suzuki 90hp 2001. It has a very distinct smell from the exhaust. The only problem with the AV gas 100LL is going to get it from the airport and it is pricey. The only other option for nonethonal is race fuel which costs even more and closer to 110 octane. If I remember right the av gas is 4.50$gal.

1pescadoloco

We tried av gas & racing fuel in our two stroke racing karts many, many moons ago. It would leave lead ball deposits on the plug & foul them out. I'm not sure if they still put lead in those fuels. Most outboards & yard equipment are designed to run on 87 -89 octane. Running high octane fuels may do more harm than good.

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pueblowestdude

As soon as I tell the whole world there are no pure gas stations, I find one off the beaten path. I think you are right about the deposits on the plugs. The airplane engines spark plugs have what you describe on them. Evidently the benefits of lead on the overall engine out weigh periodic spark plug maintenance, at least with air cooled engines. Might be a bad idea with water cooled set up? I bet the higher octane runs cooler or something with the flame travel. Hopefully my new found supply stays around.

X-Shark

So how much is it up there?

pueblowestdude

10% ethanol regular is 2.85$ and nonethanol is about a 25cents higher. The avgas is 4.90$. Haven't been to the marina since november and want to say it is about 75cents more than regular. The water temp is what makes fishing difficult right now 33-37deg. What you have to hear to believe, is the singing of crackling ice from your boat wake when you pull up to the frozen section of the lake. It echoes off of the cliffs.