lobsterman

Jigmaster is correct, there is no aditive that counters the effects of ethanol, it is all snake oil. The only solution is as he says. 100% gas , non ethanol fuel is the only solution. It not only affects your performance, it messes with all your rubber parts, fuel lines diaphram in fuel pump and the list goes on. It also shortens the life of your motor by burning hotter.

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marine stabil is not red it is blue. I went to alcohol fuel testers web sight they have sheet of all brands marine additives stabil22213 and 22239 and 40 contain no alcohol does not asborb water95%petroleum dislate naphtha 22238 and 40 80%. they do say the best thing to do is use good e10 change often. i myself dont use it, e10 after i lost a motor due to a load water from a shell station on w street.. i will still use stabile for long term storage. stabil makes the evinrude brand, how about that, or gold eagle

RabbitHunter

I use Seafoam and Stabil and I have not had any issues at all. One more thing I have a old Johnson250HP Ocean Runner on my boat...not one of the newer more efficient but costly engines..of today. The newer engines are more efficient on gas, but damn the maintenance is crazy. So I spend a little more on gas but dont have any of the issues that allot of you guys might have with the high tech engines. So this might be why stabil/sea faom work to perfection in my boat.

Mudigger

Not sure where you got your information. Here is what I found:

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Chemical Name: MSDS: Proprietary or trade secret ingredient(s)
CAS Registry Number: 000000-00-8
Synonyms: ***No information available at this time***

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Chemical Information
Chemical Name: Hydrotreated light naphthenic distillate solvent extract
CAS Registry Number: 064742-53-6
Synonyms: Distillates, petroleum, hydrotreated light naphthenic; Mineral oil, petroleum distillates, hydrotreated (mild) light naphthenic; Mineral oil, petroleum distillates, hydrotreated (severe) light naphthenic; Naphthenic petroleum oil; Petroleum distillates, hydrotreated light naphthenic

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Sea~N~Red

I use sea foam as directed on label about every other fill up little expensive but dries the water up in fuel and I use Marvel mystry oil 4oz to every 10 gal for lubrication for seals and rubber parts anyone else use marvel mystery oil? I use it in all my gas and diesel engines

merkinman

The best thing I have found is 4 oz Denatured alcohol/1oz MEK for every 20 gal.

NoMoSurf

This is pretty amusing. I'm not defending any of these products nor advocating their use. I do not keep fuel in my tank long enough to worry about it. I fish just about every weekend, ALL year. But I will add this;
Ethanol, Propanol, and Isopropyl are three very different compounds with very different effects. The purpose of the Propanol in Stabil is to bind with the Ethenol in fuel to prohibit it's ability to bind with water vapor in the air, thus pulling it into your fuel.

As for the additive reducing your octane... Maybe so, but 99.999% of people do not even understand what octane is or pertains to in your fuel. I will not go deep into this subject as it is WAY to involved for a simple post. But a higher octane fuel is LESS flammable/more stable tan a lower octane fuel. That is why turbo/superchaged engine need it. The higher cylinder pressure actually ignite low octane fuels with no spark. Thus causing "octane rattle" or "valve rattle". This is caused by explosions when your piston/valves are in the wrong positions to contain the explosion or use it toward making higher power output. If you are worried about your lost octane rating, just add Xylene and Tolulene to your fuel. They are redily available at home depot/lowe's and the ratio recipe is redily available in the internet. If you wonder if it works, just ask anyone that seriously drag races turbocharged engines

jigmaster

Just because someone thinks it or says it doesnt mean its true! Period. Or if they have used additives and havnt been left high and dry on the seas yet doesnt mean they eventually wont be... It's also a good possiblity that instead of getting the 3k hrous out of your outboard you had hoped for- you will now only get maybe 2k hrs.

Now really does anyone on here truly believe that adding that 1oz. of Naptha,PaleOil, mineral spirits or anything else for that matter to X amounts of GALLONS of E-10 gas is going to save the Day? really!?!? NO Really?

Folks what we have here is Mutiny at the hands of our Politicians.

Go out now buy the Pure Gas while you still can it's every Boater for himself.

I dont go offshore much but you can bet your Azz if im going 20plus miles out, I aint going with E-10!

lilskeet

I agree that ethanol is not a good combination for marine use but I will continue to use sta-bil. I have it in 6 small engines in the gare and all of them have fuel that is around a year old and they all start 1st pull. Kudos to Honda also but I have a friend that had problems with water seperation in his generator and the fuel wasn't even 3 months old. Now he puts sta-bil in everything but his vehicle. Funny how we don't have enough corn for our cattle and our own consumption but this fine government wants to run our vehicles off of it.

Hook

Yes! +2