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Old 06-21-2012, 11:18 PM   #31
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I still don't see how leaving the safety of your home to trail someone through your neighborhood and then shooting him is self defense. Thug or not at that age If an adult was stalking me through a neighborhood and confronted me I would have beat the shit out of him as well. I just cannot see self defense here if Zimmerman was in fear of his life he should have went home locked rhe door and called the cops period. I don't see any rational person doing what he did he basically stalked the kid like a bear and when the bear turned him he shot him.
It comes down to who attacked who. Stalking, as you put it, is not against the law. However, "beating" someone still is.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:06 AM   #32
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I still don't see how leaving the safety of your home to trail someone through your neighborhood and then shooting him is self defense. Thug or not at that age If an adult was stalking me through a neighborhood and confronted me I would have beat the shit out of him as well. I just cannot see self defense here if Zimmerman was in fear of his life he should have went home locked rhe door and called the cops period. I don't see any rational person doing what he did he basically stalked the kid like a bear and when the bear turned him he shot him.

Sounds like the typical victim stance. Zimmerman was part of a neighborhood watch group. You know, one of those groups that "watch the neighborhood". If I remember right he was out doing that. His neighborhood was being frequently burglarized. He was doing what he was supposed to be doing.
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:23 AM   #33
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And it's also reported that he wasn't attacked while doing just that... unless you have some firsthand information that you'd like to share.
Seems to me by this statement that you are the one that should share with us your firsthand information about what else he was doing besides, walking, eating skittles and talking to his girl friend. If more than 'just that' was what he was doing, please share what else he was doing that was clearly criminal in nature deserving of death?
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:28 AM   #34
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It comes down to who attacked who. Stalking, as you put it, is not against the law. However, "beating" someone still is.
Stalking is not against the law .... wow!! Tell you what, pick out a big strong man one night and 'stalk' him. Go up to him in the same manner that Zimm Zimm came up on Trayvon. Come back and tell us how it went, if your mouth isn't wired shut and you can get to your keyboard.
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Sounds like the typical victim stance. Zimmerman was part of a neighborhood watch group. You know, one of those groups that "watch the neighborhood". If I remember right he was out doing that. His neighborhood was being frequently burglarized. He was doing what he was supposed to be doing.
What was the name of the neigborhood watch group that he belonged to?

Who were the officers or elected representatives?

What were their written rules/guidlines governing 'confrontation' and the carrying of weapons?

Was Zimmerman authorized to carry a weapon and what was the authorization?

Was Zimmermann assigned to his 'watch' position that night?

What were the boundaries of his 'watch area' if any?

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Old 06-22-2012, 10:38 AM   #36
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Seems to me by this statement that you are the one that should share with us your firsthand information about what else he was doing besides, walking, eating skittles and talking to his girl friend. If more than 'just that' was what he was doing, please share what else he was doing that was clearly criminal in nature deserving of death?
I've made no absolute assessments. But you have.
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Stalking is not against the law .... wow!! Tell you what, pick out a big strong man one night and 'stalk' him. Go up to him in the same manner that Zimm Zimm came up on Trayvon. Come back and tell us how it went, if your mouth isn't wired shut and you can get to your keyboard.
And, by your story, the only person who commits a crime would be the dude who breaks my jaw... God help him...

Following someone who looks suspicious is not afoul of the law. But I'm sure that you've been faced with this argument already. Therefore, I bid you good day, and leave you with your close-minded assumptions.
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I've made no absolute assessments. But you have.
Nice tap dance but no, I haven't made any 'absolute assessments. I'll try again. What were the 'reports' that Trayvon was doing something other than walking, talking on the phone, and eating skittles, that was clearly criminal in nature?
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And, by your story, the only person who commits a crime would be the dude who breaks my jaw... God help him...

Following someone who looks suspicious is not afoul of the law. But I'm sure that you've been faced with this argument already. Therefore, I bid you good day, and leave you with your close-minded assumptions.
You bid me good day because your reasoning is warped and logic non existent. Have a good day!! And BTW looking suspicious is very subjective, especially to an untrained eye. Was Zimmerman trained in law enforcement? I think not! In fact he as told by a real law enforcement person to stop what he was doing. Obviously the person giving him this advice didn't think he was trained and capable.

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Nice tap dance but no, I haven't made any 'absolute assessments. I'll try again. What were the 'reports' that Trayvon was doing something other than walking, talking on the phone, and eating skittles, that was clearly criminal in nature?
No, dummy, the actions that followed are what is in contention.

By your logic, why don't you start with what he did 12 hours before the incident? "He got out of bed, and brushed his teeth..." Or better yet, "Zimmerman left his house to go to the grocery store..." That sounds rather innocent too, doesn't it.

Your words tell on you. It's good to know that you have all of the facts in hand. You are a VERY smart guy!
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