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Old 07-01-2012, 09:38 AM   #121
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ive never lied to a judge when i was in jail for a murder charge, pull up the ordinance and read it, if u have a concealed permit read it, ive had one since 1980. if zimmerman had been in his yard, thats a different thing, read the law.

You were in jail for a murder charge?
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:41 AM   #122
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You may not even be from this planet. He said the law was not intended for a person to follow another person around and justify their use of deadly force in a fight that they started and provoked. Learn to read.
Glad to hear you are not from Florida.

I know what he said, but what he said is not what the evidence shows. You guys just seem to what it to say that really bad.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:48 AM   #123
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I seem to recall you saying that questions like those were 'stupid' and that this is not a court and we are not judges. So why ask?

You are really reaching here man. "If the evidence at hand" isn't a random guess of what might have happened, it's the only story we have. Until we get new evidence there is no reason not to believe what we have.

Until there is new evidence then Zimmerman should be acquitted. If something credible comes out that makes him look guilty then I will accept it as fact. I just wont call him guilty because Al Sharpton thinks he is.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:57 AM   #124
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Are you saying white people are not clean or have dirty souls???? If not please explain because if anyone you sound like the racist. FYI.had he been slamming my head in the pavement i'd have shot him too, and not lost a wink of sleep over it.
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Read the full thread and you will answer you own question. But if you cannot find it the answer is 'NO', it was a response to him using a racist analogy of a pot calling a 'styrofoam' cup black. But you should read the bible and see what it said in its fullest. And btw, if I was following a guy around, I would recognize the danger in doing so. I would also understand if the guy became agitated, turned and wanted to know what the hell I was doing? And if a fight broke out and I was getting my ass kicked, I would not attempt to defend my actions on 'I was just standing my ground', knowing full well that I started the fight by following him.
Unless of course I was a liar and wanted to save my skin on a murder charge.
To more full answer crackers question, yes MS is racist but doesn't admit to it. I guess he had never heard the "Pot calling the Kettle" black saying used in a context that wasn't racist, though I've never heard it in a context that it was. He seems to want to make every statement that anyone who defends Zimmerman or believes we should wait until all the evidence is presented out to be a racist statement. There seems to be a growing trend of people that believe Zimmerman has Jewish roots and the Scout has proven over months of post that he is VERY anti-jewish. I made the pot calling the styrofoam statement because the "pot calling the kettle" statement isn't accurate as it portrays the hypocrisy of a person pointing out a flaw of one person when they in fact have the same flaw. I'm not a racist yet MS keeps saying I am, while he is a well established racist.

BTW I'm part Black, so there.

Maybe I should have said "The pot calling the plaid shirt black"
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:45 PM   #125
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I choose my killings, i have yet to be charged, ms is about as racist as i am. the truth wont make much difference it is there if you really wanted to find it. my last post on this topic, not going to enable you no more, you got sh## for brains. i dont care what color the shooter or victum was, he had shi# for brains just like you. i never said i didnt believe in stand your ground or busting a cap in someone, i just said this wasnt a good shoot. small school band director, what a good example to your students

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Old 07-01-2012, 07:13 PM   #126
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Following someone isn't starting a fight. A fight begins when someone loses control and lays a hand on someone else. Martin started the fight by battering Zimmerman. Stalking is not following someone one time to see what they are up to. Stalking involves a pattern.

Martin battered Zimmerman - he couldn't retreat even if he wanted to, he was flat on his back. Zimmerman reasonably feared death or serious bodily harm. He showed great restraint - he didn't draw and fire until Martin saw the pistol in its holster and tried to grab it - after Zimmerman had asked bystanders to help him, without success.

If Zimmerman was targeting Martin for killing due to a racist bent - he would have had his pistol in his hand while following him.

It was a good shoot based upon the evidence - and I too would have taken the shot had I been in Zimmerman's place.
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You are really reaching here man. "If the evidence at hand" isn't a random guess of what might have happened, it's the only story we have. Until we get new evidence there is no reason not to believe what we have.

Until there is new evidence then Zimmerman should be acquitted. If something credible comes out that makes him look guilty then I will accept it as fact. I just wont call him guilty because Al Sharpton thinks he is.
This really shows your lack of fairness and your lack of credibility. Al Sharpton was not there and has nothing to do with this other than being a civic leader if you like it or not. But you have to use your dislike of him to support your biased view against Trayvon.

'isn't a random guess of what might have happened, it's the only story we have. Until we get new evidence there is no reason not to believe what we have.'

With this statement you should go watch that paint dry .... you might learn something. Everyone knows that criminals never lie to cover their crimes and Zimmerman would never lie to cover his acts that led to the death of another human being. His lie about his financial status ..... well heck it was just a little lie.

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To more full answer crackers question, yes MS is racist but doesn't admit to it. I guess he had never heard the "Pot calling the Kettle" black saying used in a context that wasn't racist, though I've never heard it in a context that it was. He seems to want to make every statement that anyone who defends Zimmerman or believes we should wait until all the evidence is presented out to be a racist statement. There seems to be a growing trend of people that believe Zimmerman has Jewish roots and the Scout has proven over months of post that he is VERY anti-jewish. I made the pot calling the styrofoam statement because the "pot calling the kettle" statement isn't accurate as it portrays the hypocrisy of a person pointing out a flaw of one person when they in fact have the same flaw. I'm not a racist yet MS keeps saying I am, while he is a well established racist.

BTW I'm part Black, so there.

Maybe I should have said "The pot calling the plaid shirt black"
Far more accurate would be that I have called you bigoted and racist and biased and self contradictory. Review the thread, I never mentioned him or his name being 50/50 jewish/gentile YOU DID. Please do not tell anyone else that you are part Black ..... we have enough problems.
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I choose my killings, i have yet to be charged, ms is about as racist as i am. the truth wont make much difference it is there if you really wanted to find it. my last post on this topic, not going to enable you no more, you got sh## for brains. i dont care what color the shooter or victum was, he had shi# for brains just like you. i never said i didnt believe in stand your ground or busting a cap in someone, i just said this wasnt a good shoot. small school band director, what a good example to your students

This from a person who can't complete a single sentence in the English language.
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Far more accurate would be that I have called you bigoted and racist and biased and self contradictory. Review the thread, I never mentioned him or his name being 50/50 jewish/gentile YOU DID. Please do not tell anyone else that you are part Black ..... we have enough problems.

Your hatred for the Jewish people is well documented on this site. You're grasping for straws trying to throw that label elsewhere.
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