Neither one of these has a scratch on them and were only used a couple times. I replaced the original guides on the largo due to being cut through by power pro. I put silicone carbide guides on (same ones that are on the shimano calcuttas) paid $55 just for the guides, casts very well. Fenwick is 6ft 4-10lb. makes a great speck rod.I also have the original receipt for the key largo to cover the blank.$100for both Dan