Go Back   Pensacola Fishing Forum > Scuba Forums > General Scuba Chat

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-08-2009, 12:31 PM   #51
Senior Member
Snapper
 
BADBOY69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: P'cola, Destin, Milton
Posts: 411
Default RE: Rescued Gear!!

Quote:
freespool50 (10/8/2009)glad it went ok. first time reading this post. im a really really really really new diver. i have a question. what would be the problem with dropping a tank with reg attached down to about 1/2 the diving depth for just that situation? if you have to ditch ALL your gear including your pony, wouldnt there be some comfort in knowing there is air halfway up and a rope to hang on while doing a deco stop? does anyone do this? or is it considered going way overboard with safety. according to all the posts and the instruction ive been given, it would seem that you cant do too much to be safe.
'Freespool', first of all, welcome to the sport! I've seen some of your post in other areas and look forword to seeing some reports back from your diving, you'll add alot here. As to your question, nothing is wrong with hanging a stage tankfor use in an emergency. I think I understood your post correctly...having a tank with a reg attached to thedescent line ata specified depth for use in the event of an, "Oh, sh!t" incident.Of course, a pony bottle or bail-out setupyou sling on you or your rig is wise so that you don'thave to worry about trying to find the line in orderto utilize your safety plan. But, like you said, what if there was a rare occasion when you had to ditch everything or everything failed...why not do both? Then you have a backup to your backup! There is nothing wrong with implementing that as part of your dive routine, just practicedeploying and using the system. There is no diving style that is TOO safe, in my opinion! Again, glad to have you over here and hope this helps.
BADBOY69 is offline   Reply With Quote
 

Old 10-08-2009, 01:13 PM   #52
Senior Member
Blue Marlin
 
Clay-Doh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Gulf Breeze, or 100' Deep on a Wreck With a Gun!
Posts: 4,832
Default RE: Rescued Gear!!

Forgot what charter it is..Think it may be Beerbunder? Anyways, they have a tank and rig set up at the top of the tower on the O. So at about 70 feet if there is an emergency, there is a rig. I think thats a great idea. Dalton has bottles slung down at 20 feet on his, which in a case as with Swander, is still great because he can add a safety margin by being able to off-gas while still under 1.60 atmospheres of pressure, and much lessening the chance of bends.



Even better yet (with proper training) is pure O2 slung at that depth, if you have a computer that can switch to pure O2, and can be switched to a new mix while underwater. Talk about watching your nitrogen disappear right before your eyes.



Theoretically speaking, you could assend on one "breath" of air from any depth, say 1,000 feet. At 1000 feet, 1 lungfull of air has as much gas at that depth as 30.30 lungfulls at the surface. An accent from 100 feet on a breath of air is actually 3 breathfulls of air. Its the time factor involved on fast you have to ascend because from a depth of 100 feet it should take exactly 2 minutes and 40 seconds to reach the surface based on 60 fpm accent rate from 100-60 feet, and 30 fpm from 60 feet to 0. (I know I know, the book teaches 30 fpm accent regardless of depth, and good to follow. It is industry acceptable to ascend 60fpm at depths greater than 60. I personally ascend about 15 feet per minute though). With a stagfe bottle at 20 feet, that cuts total "safe" accent time down to 2 minutes, plus allows you to do a safety stop, which would be more like a decompression stop due to the faster than "safe and acceptable" accent rate that you would probably have done.



I have been meaning to get one of them lil spare airs that provides aprox 20 breaths of air. Very small with its own reg mounted on top, takes up almost zero room. Considering the expanding lungs and air, that would be plenty to get me to the surface safely.



My name is Clay, and I am an addict. I in no way advocate decompression diving or use of O2. Or accent rates of 60 fpm at depths greater than 60'. And always dive within 10 feet of your buddy.


__________________
SO EASY A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT.
MY UNDERWATER SPEARFISHING VIDEOS
Clay-Doh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2009, 03:52 PM   #53
Senior Member
Snapper
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Pace, FL
Posts: 517
Default RE: Rescued Gear!!

I like 20 foot of line with a tank attached/reg attached. If ya got one why not drop it down....most can see the boat above but the current and anchor line may be way out front and 100 feet away, this would give a good anchor point for a safety stop.... Im learning..

Yall gotta get me on a boat and teach a newbie some new stuff, Josh and Rich ..well Ive used up all their passed on knowledge!
BOHUNTER1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2009, 04:30 PM   #54
Senior Member
Blue Marlin
 
Clay-Doh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Gulf Breeze, or 100' Deep on a Wreck With a Gun!
Posts: 4,832
Default RE: Rescued Gear!!

We'll get you out there Bohunter!
__________________
SO EASY A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT.
MY UNDERWATER SPEARFISHING VIDEOS
Clay-Doh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2009, 04:56 PM   #55
Member
Ruby Red Lip
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: cantoment fl
Posts: 34
Default RE: Rescued Gear!!

if your gonna dive alone should not even be an option unless teatherd to topside an no line pull signals are comms dive buddys are the best way an safe way its just not worth it
deepcelineman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2