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Old 12-28-2009, 05:52 AM   #1
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Default Harness, Backplate, and Bladders

Alright, lets hear it.

If we purchased a harness, what would we need to look for. Straps, cummerbun, gear loops, chest strap,

Backplates, Aluminum, stainless, looking for weight or stability, dimension benefits

Bladders, full round, horseshoe like, 30lb, 38lb, 40, 50, what?

Im diving freash and salt water, in fresh Im gathering weight looking for goodies, in salt Im gonna be killing fish and possibly picking up stuff, I understand you guys dont need the larger bladder because of the salt water and the dive is more adventure and spearing not collecting rocks or petrified objects as I would in less bouyant fresh water. Im a floater, I had 25kbs of lead on me in November with a 5mm farner john top and a 3mm full. I was like a cork, had to pull myself down. Should I look for a bladder of 35+lbs lift, stainless backplate and simple webbing harness? Im curious just picking brains. Maybe your set ups, brands models and such... STEVE
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:01 AM   #2
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Since you say you are "a floater", I'll recommend a stainless backplate, and steel tanks. I've found that a bit of extra weight is helpful when spearfishing... sometimes that big snapper or grouper will bloat up and start trying to pull you to the surface like a lift bag. I've seen guys get in trouble because of a stringer of fish pulling them up faster than they wanted to go. I, myself, have spent an entire ascent and safety stop in a head-down position, finning toward the bottom because the fish on my stringer bloated up during ascent and started pulling me to the surface. So, extra weight when spearfishing is not a bad thing!

As for harneses, they're a matter of personal preference. A Hog harness is very basic, no padding. All the manufacturers make a couple harneses and give them names like Standard, Elite, Deluxe, etc. I like a little padding on my shoulders so I went with the nicer Hollis harness.

Bladders: I'm using the Hollis 38 lb. donut, and it works great for me. I'm 5'10" and about 175 lbs. with average body fat. I prefer the donut wing because it's less likely thatair will get trapped on one side like with the horse-shoe style wings.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:10 AM   #3
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FelixH (12/28/2009)Since you say you are "a floater", I'll recommend a stainless backplate, and steel tanks. I've found that a bit of extra weight is helpful when spearfishing... sometimes that big snapper or grouper will bloat up and start trying to pull you to the surface like a lift bag. I've seen guys get in trouble because of a stringer of fish pulling them up faster than they wanted to go. I, myself, have spent an entire ascent and safety stop in a head-down position, finning toward the bottom because the fish on my stringer bloated up during ascent and started pulling me to the surface. So, extra weight when spearfishing is not a bad thing!
Felix, you need to properly vent those fish when that happens. I good knife poke to the gut helps on that issue most of the time.

Steve,

Go check out the Hollis harness that MBT has. Have only heard good things about them.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:14 AM   #4
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FelixH (12/28/2009)Since you say you are "a floater", I'll recommend a stainless backplate, and steel tanks. I've found that a bit of extra weight is helpful when spearfishing... sometimes that big snapper or grouper will bloat up and start trying to pull you to the surface like a lift bag. I've seen guys get in trouble because of a stringer of fish pulling them up faster than they wanted to go. I, myself, have spent an entire ascent and safety stop in a head-down position, finning toward the bottom because the fish on my stringer bloated up during ascent and started pulling me to the surface. So, extra weight when spearfishing is not a bad thing!
Felix, you need to properly vent those fish when that happens. I good knife poke to the gut helps on that issue most of the time.
You're right... learned that lesson long ago. Or, just make a lot of gut shots. :doh
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Haa haa..Felix said gut shot.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:02 PM   #6
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Got me a Dive computer in the mail today!

Yall dont realize when Im loaded up, ITS GONNA BE ON!

Im looking to refine my gear on the slow season when its possible to pick up a good deal. I got MBTs certificate and will be rolling by and checking out that Hollis rig.

Yeah Im a floater.. LOL I think a guy named Rich Adams called me that first.... like the pot calling the kettle black eh!

Ok

Bladder Donut style = I

Baldder Horseshoe Style =

Stainless plate = I

Aluminum plate =

Harness Padded shoulders = I

Standard harness =

Thanks
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:14 PM   #7
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Alright I'm gonna tell you what I've had for about 4ish years now.



I started with the SS Backplate and a Horseshoe wing and loved it. That was until I was introduced into the donut style wing. The horseshoe has a tendency to trap air in one side and can cause you to roll. The donut is a lot more streamlined and smaller.



The SS B/P allows me to wear no weight at all which is something I really liked. If it were me and I look at the Hollis B/P and wing set up. I'd go with the 35 or 37 donut wing (not sure the exact lift amount.)



Go with a Single piece of webbing and the normal D rings, crotch strap, and what not. I personally have found I don't need the chest strap. I took my shoulder pads off because they kept sliding down and it got fairly annoying.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:16 AM   #8
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Sounds good thats the info I want to hear!

I just got a used Dive Computer in today from Santa... I know why didnt he buy me a new one.... welll another story.... Kinda Blood and turnip thingie...

Its a Diverite NiTek Duo, I swaer its the same one as the Tuse iQ-700 or something like that. Both manuals read the same, design is the same and I guess remove the outter cover and replace with another and they would be the same?? Oh well....

Spent the last hour going over it, each step, setting time, mixes, perodic pee breaks and all the stuff you find on one of these rascals. I went through the PROFILE and the previous owner must have never fuigured it out and dove anyways, goes through like 4 dives and the LOG looks like a dive, then Im guessing he loaned it or sold it to someone who couldnt find a manual. Dive from 21 mins, 5,5,..all of these were within 3 days, then 4.5 months later he dropped it in the water and made 2 quick dives max to 45 feet! either got it back or that dude sold it and dive profile log looks good, normal looking dives.... I guess Ill reset it and start from scratch? I dont need the logs but I might go over mine one day.

My question is if you are diving a MIX of 28% then hit the boat, SI an hour and return on 32% on second dive, is this considered a 2nd Mix or is the 2nd Mix only when your expecting DECO or stole a tank of the dead wrapped up spearo on a rig while you take his fish and roll on......... LOL

I know I speak strangely, my buddys call it "BO-Bonics" hang around long enuff your be able to decipher anything I say! LOL

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Old 12-29-2009, 12:22 AM   #9
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On a Two gas computer your second mix will be your Deco Gas. After your first dive you can change Mix 1 to whatever it is you will be using as your primary gas.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:36 AM   #10
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Your so smart, yet so young still.... I cant figure all this out!

LOL HAAAA

Im gonna save up, Birthday this January so I see a gun or a BCD set up coming!
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