12-30-2008 Destin

Sailor50 · 12-31-2008, 12:31 PM

Got a late start, left Joe's Bayou around 1100, messed around in the bay hunting for some pinfish, finally found some. Notice several boats in the channel under the Destin Bridge and aound it, guess the sheepshead are in.

Started to run into what looked like some old water bottles someone threw in the water, then realized they were Man-O-Wars, pretty thick from about 8 miles to 15 miles.

Had planned on going out 25 miles or so, but realized I didnt have as much gas as I had thought, so stayed within 15 miles. Ended up in what I believe they call the 18s, about 12-15 miles SSE of the pass iin 110'of water. Used a 2 hook rig with squid and put a live pin fish down on a bottom rig. Nothing ever took any of the pin fish, caught everything on the squied. Productive day, these jacks were everywhere, got tired of catching them. Really not sure what they are, didn't quite look like an Almaco to me, Banded Rudderfish? Would appreciate some help here.

All were about 12-15" long. Noticed the school would follow the ones I caught almost to the top.

Also caught a lot of these guys, is this a snapper?

Ended catching some Mingos, Red Snapper, and small Trigger fish.

On the last spot, flipper showed up. I would hook a good fish on the bottom and before I reeled in 10 feet he would grab it and then I would have to fight him. Had just put some new braid on so wanted to get as much line as I could back before I cut it but after about 5 minuted, guess he managed to get the fish off as the line would go limp and I ended up getting the whole rig back, minus any fish. This happened 3 times and that was that. Never had one grab the fish so deep, guess this was his hole.

Headed back in, waters still calm, beautiful sunset again

Telum Pisces · 12-31-2008, 12:33 PM

Just looks like a juvinile AJ to me. Sounds like a good day on the water.

lobsterman · 12-31-2008, 12:38 PM

The mna-o-war were crazy out ther yesterday. Glad you had a good last day fishing this year. Happy New Year.

nb&twil · 12-31-2008, 12:39 PM

I believe he's talking about the fish below that comment. On the head boats in Destin, we always called them "white snapper" and threw them in the box. I know plenty of people who eat them and have no complaints. They're a great AJ bait. Along with that juvy trigger you're holding!

Telum Pisces · 12-31-2008, 12:49 PM

I have always called the fish in the middle of this pic a white snapper. But who knows.

pogypumper · 12-31-2008, 01:06 PM

Nice pictures of the man o wars.

First pic is a juvy greater amberjack. The other we call either a pogy, white snapper and some call it a pink snapper. Meat is a little mushy, but if the oil is hot enough, you can get it crispy! Also an excelent live bait for jacks, grouper and big snapper.

lobsterman · 12-31-2008, 01:27 PM

It is actually a Porgy, http://www.goodcompanyii.com/img/porgy.jpg

Us rednecks call em white snapper, silver snapper or bait.

fred · 12-31-2008, 04:18 PM

Here's a page to help distinguish one jack from another by fins and gill rakers.

http://www.al.rodngun.com/gulffish/g...w&FishID=1

(Admin, please let me know if linking to someone else's site is not OK and I won't do it again, I'm a newbie here - BTW, kudos, the participation on this site is the best there is for our part of the GoM)

Junvenile jacks of different species will school together. The one in your hand looks like a greater AJ based on the dorsal, not sure about the one on the board, but doesn't look like the other.

Snip: "They may be distinguished from each other by the number of gill rakers, the length of the anal fin base, and the numbers of spines and rays in the dorsal fin. Gill rakers are the finger-like extensions projecting forward from the front gill arch. Greater amberjacks have 11-19 gill rakers, a long anal fin base, 7 dorsal fin spines, and 30-34 dorsal fin rays. Lesser amberjacks have 21-24 gill rakers, a long anal fin base, 8 dorsal fin spines, and 29-32 dorsal fin rays. Almaco jacks have 21-26 gill rakers, a long anal fin base, 7 dorsal fin spines, and 28-31 dorsal fin rays. Banded rudderfish have a short anal fin base, 12-16 gill rakers, 8 dorsal fin spines, and 34-39 dorsal fin rays."

The fish ID there is handy.

reelfinatical · 12-31-2008, 07:14 PM

Nice pics Sailor ~ Glad I finally got the chance to meet you in person at the docks. =)

Lickety-Split · 01-01-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Telum Piscis (12/31/2008)I have always called the fish in the middle of this pic a white snapper. But who knows.

That is a Key West Porgy. The pic in original post is a Red Porgy(White Snapper) very good eats if they are big enough.

12-31-2008, 12:31 PM	#1
Sailor50 Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Destin, Fl Posts: 257	12-30-2008 Destin Got a late start, left Joe's Bayou around 1100, messed around in the bay hunting for some pinfish, finally found some. Notice several boats in the channel under the Destin Bridge and aound it, guess the sheepshead are in. Started to run into what looked like some old water bottles someone threw in the water, then realized they were Man-O-Wars, pretty thick from about 8 miles to 15 miles. Had planned on going out 25 miles or so, but realized I didnt have as much gas as I had thought, so stayed within 15 miles. Ended up in what I believe they call the 18s, about 12-15 miles SSE of the pass iin 110'of water. Used a 2 hook rig with squid and put a live pin fish down on a bottom rig. Nothing ever took any of the pin fish, caught everything on the squied. Productive day, these jacks were everywhere, got tired of catching them. Really not sure what they are, didn't quite look like an Almaco to me, Banded Rudderfish? Would appreciate some help here. All were about 12-15" long. Noticed the school would follow the ones I caught almost to the top. Also caught a lot of these guys, is this a snapper? Ended catching some Mingos, Red Snapper, and small Trigger fish. On the last spot, flipper showed up. I would hook a good fish on the bottom and before I reeled in 10 feet he would grab it and then I would have to fight him. Had just put some new braid on so wanted to get as much line as I could back before I cut it but after about 5 minuted, guess he managed to get the fish off as the line would go limp and I ended up getting the whole rig back, minus any fish. This happened 3 times and that was that. Never had one grab the fish so deep, guess this was his hole. Headed back in, waters still calm, beautiful sunset again

12-31-2008, 12:33 PM	#2
Telum Pisces Senior Member Blue Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,608	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin Just looks like a juvinile AJ to me. Sounds like a good day on the water.

12-31-2008, 12:38 PM	#3
lobsterman Jiggin Finatic Blue Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okaloosa Posts: 5,636	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin The mna-o-war were crazy out ther yesterday. Glad you had a good last day fishing this year. Happy New Year. __________________ AKA Jiggin Junkie II Chronicles 7:14 Randy's Canvas & Marine Vinyls 850-279-4140 850-855-5314 cell Custom Awnings - Repairs Boat Cushions - Curtains and more

12-31-2008, 12:39 PM	#4
nb&twil Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 1,393	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin I believe he's talking about the fish below that comment. On the head boats in Destin, we always called them "white snapper" and threw them in the box. I know plenty of people who eat them and have no complaints. They're a great AJ bait. Along with that juvy trigger you're holding!

12-31-2008, 12:49 PM	#5
Telum Pisces Senior Member Blue Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,608	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin I have always called the fish in the middle of this pic a white snapper. But who knows.

12-31-2008, 01:06 PM	#6
pogypumper Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pensacola Posts: 344	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin Nice pictures of the man o wars. First pic is a juvy greater amberjack. The other we call either a pogy, white snapper and some call it a pink snapper. Meat is a little mushy, but if the oil is hot enough, you can get it crispy! Also an excelent live bait for jacks, grouper and big snapper.

12-31-2008, 01:27 PM	#7
lobsterman Jiggin Finatic Blue Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Okaloosa Posts: 5,636	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin It is actually a Porgy, http://www.goodcompanyii.com/img/porgy.jpg Us rednecks call em white snapper, silver snapper or bait. __________________ AKA Jiggin Junkie II Chronicles 7:14 Randy's Canvas & Marine Vinyls 850-279-4140 850-855-5314 cell Custom Awnings - Repairs Boat Cushions - Curtains and more

12-31-2008, 04:18 PM	#8
fred Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pelham, AL Posts: 418	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin Here's a page to help distinguish one jack from another by fins and gill rakers. http://www.al.rodngun.com/gulffish/g...w&FishID=1 (Admin, please let me know if linking to someone else's site is not OK and I won't do it again, I'm a newbie here - BTW, kudos, the participation on this site is the best there is for our part of the GoM) Junvenile jacks of different species will school together. The one in your hand looks like a greater AJ based on the dorsal, not sure about the one on the board, but doesn't look like the other. Snip: "They may be distinguished from each other by the number of gill rakers, the length of the anal fin base, and the numbers of spines and rays in the dorsal fin. Gill rakers are the finger-like extensions projecting forward from the front gill arch. Greater amberjacks have 11-19 gill rakers, a long anal fin base, 7 dorsal fin spines, and 30-34 dorsal fin rays. Lesser amberjacks have 21-24 gill rakers, a long anal fin base, 8 dorsal fin spines, and 29-32 dorsal fin rays. Almaco jacks have 21-26 gill rakers, a long anal fin base, 7 dorsal fin spines, and 28-31 dorsal fin rays. Banded rudderfish have a short anal fin base, 12-16 gill rakers, 8 dorsal fin spines, and 34-39 dorsal fin rays." The fish ID there is handy.

12-31-2008, 07:14 PM	#9
reelfinatical Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,895	RE: 12-30-2008 Destin Nice pics Sailor ~ Glad I finally got the chance to meet you in person at the docks. =)

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