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Cigar Minnow
Join Date: Feb 2008
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can anybody tell me who is making up these ruls and where are they getting there info .. thanks TOMMY A:
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Sailfish
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
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Tommy:
It has already been covered ad nauseum on this forum who is to blame and how we got here. I will try to sum it up: 1) The Department of commerce, subheading NOAA, subheading NMFS (National Marine Fisheries Service). That is who is in charge of fishing regulations, and all the other organizations that are their superiors. 2)Magnuson Stevens was an act passed to end all overfishing in federal waters by 2010. Sounds good, but the problem is defining "normal population density" as well as number of fish caught each year. They are using data from commercial fishermen and they are ESTIMATING data based on phone surveys of license holders. These estimations are extremely succeptible to being skewed. That is why we see SO MANY red snapper, but the NMFS says they are critically overfished. 3)The NMFS is stacked with Pew Foundation supporters who are of the opinion that recreational fishermen should only catch and release fish, and all of society should BUY their fish from commercial fishermen, which NMFS can more easily regulate and get "campaign contributions" from. Not many rec fishermen send contributions to politicians. That in a nutshell is the problem..... |
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Snapper
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GA
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Eastern Tackle sent them a check also, based on the fact that they went to court, which is the only thing that works. You will see reference after reference of rules being based on court mandated legislation. Its the only thing that works.
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Mingo
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Well guys PETTA just paid another 15 million to lobbiest to make the gulf a catch and release state by 2012. The truth IS when federal government and state gov (Charlie Christ) yes who has ditched us as usually, we will not be able to stand up against them no matter what we cant win period. It's a great effort by the local anglers like RFRA cudos to them, but its what the state and federal gov. want, so we can waste our time. No congressman, senator cares cause none are doing nothing about it. Tell me when the last time you saw a senator speaking to the commitie about red snapper, grouper,trigger "i'll wait",next they will be telling us how many boats will be able to go out. This is how the state,and federal gov are taking over our last fredom, I would love to adress this with our Charlie Christ since he has no care about his citizens who fish and dive.
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Sailfish
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Gulf Breeze, Florida
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<H3><SPAN style="COLOR: #800000">Calling for Review of Restrictions on Florida Recreational Fishermen</H3><SPAN style="COLOR: #000000">Recreational fishing is a huge part of Florida's economy and way of life. Floridians have adhered to fishing limits, but now, federal officials are trying to change the regulations without listening to the communities most impacted. NOAA has placed new restrictions and early season closures on the Grouper, Snapper, and Amberjack fisheries, significantly impacting recreational fishermen. <SPAN style="COLOR: #000000">Before we create a new policy, there needs to be more discussion, review, and public input. Last week, I received a commitment from the Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Dr. Jane Lubchenco, that she will appoint a senior policy advisor to improve relations between NOAA and the recreational fishing community. <SPAN style="COLOR: #000000">The federal government also needs to review how it determines the appropriate restrictions. I have serious concerns about the information the National Marine Fisheries Service is using to set new fishing restrictions and closures. I have heard from fishermen in Florida who believe the information is not accurate and in fact they are seeing an abundance of fish compared to other years. Click the video below to see excerpts from the Commerce Committee hearing on this matter.<SPAN style="COLOR: #000000"> <SPAN style="COLOR: #000000"> <SPAN style="COLOR: #000000"> <SPAN style="COLOR: #000000">In the interest of fairness........................... |
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Trigger
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Hell with iT !!! No closed season for me ...They can't catch us all
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Mingo
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Well George is not saying nothing new, they said the same shit 4 years ago about red grouper no one done nothing about it on the political sector, i totally agree with OBESSION they cant catch us all too shoratge of fwc officers lol. But dont get your hopes up on the political side of things.
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