minkmaster

Are they really going to make it illegal to keep Red snapper and Gag and red grouper in the gulf next year? I fish out of Venice and Pensacola one a fall trip and one a spring and that would just plain suck. Any idea if there will even be a snapper season next summer???

JoeZ

I wouldn't count on one.

angus_cow_doctor

Well lets see.... Take an arrow and mount it on on a board where you can spin it. Mark off areas that are labelled:

1) No snapper season

2) purchase snapper tags

3)buy snapper at Jo Pattis

Then spin away and see which option is most likely..... You get the picture.

The other option is secession from the dumbasses in charge of this crap, but I figure the chance of that is so low that it is not worth putting it on the board.

By the way, Obama is DIRECTLY in charge of this debacle through a new organization he has created to oversee NOAA and NMFS, so if there is no snapper season, you can blame Obama for it. Really. I am not kidding.

Let the drama begin. It is predictable at this point. WW2 will chime in with something defending Obama. Someone will call me a racist. Here we go......

amarcafina

NO !!!

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minkmaster

I really don't understand why they would do this when all it will do is hurt tourism and the area as a whole. I know they are trying to destroy an area out in California because of this enviromental stuff too. The thing that bites me in the ass is I kill just as many red snapper when I fish in these areas if I get to bring them home for the table or not because that venting is a joke when you pull them up from over 100 feet and their eyes are all bugged out and all.

WW2

Yeah, it's pretty obvious that Obama is to blame. I mean we never even had federal limits or anyone talking about closed seasons until just this year...

minkmaster

I really fail to see how you can manage an area as big as the gulf of Mexico as one area. I mean If you stretch it out over land that would be like trying to use management practices you all use in Florida and Alabama in Iowa and Missouri. In the northern Gulf there are tons of Red Snapper and in the southern reaches almost non-existent. I fail to understand how these areas can be governed by the same regulations. What's next a snook quota for Pensacola??? It just doesn't make sense.

P-cola_Native

It isn't some conspiracy to populate south florida with red snapper. They just went after the fish with the highest catch numbers first. It won't be long and we won't be able to keep anything anymore. All our seafood will be imported chinese catfish and shit pond tilapia. The environmentalists want to end all fishing because they think we have killed off all the fish, even though they have no first hand experience on the water.

I'm getting my 100 ton right now so I can run private yacht's or maybe go to work in the oil industry. Time to focus on pleasure sailing, shipping, and drilling because fishing as an industry is dead.

Since Bush started all this by signing the Magnuson-Stevens act I blame him.

BullBoxer

I'm not a scientist but it seems that people thinking that environmentalists want to end all fishing and shut things down is plain wrong. The redfish population in the gulf coast was saved by environmentalists and conservationists alike who joined forces to save the species by standing up demanding that the fish be considered a game fish and demanding bag reductions. Now the redfish fishing along the gulf coast is as good as it has ever been. You ever stop and think that maybe they are limiting it right now in order to help the species for the future? Me being a fisherman and a conservationist, I love red snapper fishing but I am more than fine with them shutting things down now for a summer or two if it means that I can fish for them for the rest of my life.



Also, a lot of the issues regarding bag limits right now are based off of outdated models. So, that either means that they are reducing the fishing because the species really is in danger or they are reducing the limits and season based off of outdated models. If the later is true, the models and data will catch up in the next few years and the bag limits will be expanded and the season lengthened. I just find it hard to believe there is an evil conspiracy against saltwater snapper anglers. If these people were really trying to be environmentalists,they would be going after the finning of sharks and not the catching of snapper. Because of that, I think there is some legitimacy to the concern of the stocks. Just my two cents are listening to people like Dr. Bob Shipp speak who conducts research on the red snapper population and is a proponent of increasing the bag limit back to 4.

minkmaster

I am not saying they are conspiring I am asking on any species how can you have the same regulation in areas that have very low populations as other area vast distances away that have very high densities?? It makes absolutely no sense you cannot manage anything else with such vast diferences in area so how can you on a fish.



I just hope they don't shut down Cubera fishing in Southern Florida and Texas because the numbers are lower in Pensacola, Orange Beach, Venice, and Grand Isle.



Wouldn't it be better if state's had the rights to manage their species to say 50 miles out and keep the feds out of it???