Monday Flounder Report and Rant - Page 3

Frayed Knot · 11-23-2007, 09:40 AM

Dude,

It's easy to tell the difference. Flounder is almost blue.

Death From Above · 11-23-2007, 11:42 AM

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wishiniwasfishin07 (11/20/2007)You obviously don't know what your talking about. How are they supposed to know what kind of fish and how big it was if all you have is filets? What if they are Red Snapper? undersized Grouper? They are just doing their job-making sure we take care of the wildlife.

You don't know what you are talking about! Nothing else looks like a flounder filet. You must not fish much if you can can't tell a snapper or grouper filet from a flounder filet.

No, actually I do know what I'm talking about. Nobody in the world can look at a fillet and make a 100% positive identification of the species and size of fish it came from. You must not fish much if you don't know its a rule that a fish must be kept in whole condition until it's brought ashore. Go look on myFWC.com, and search it up- it's a Basic Recreational Saltwater Fishing Regulation. Maybe you should go back to the basics. How does FWC know it has already been ashore? they don't hence the ticket.

EDIT: attached is the regulations. Read the sentence just after the chart.

My comment wasn't about the law. I know the law and the basis for it. I was referring toYOU not being able to tell a flounder filet from other fish filets. Most people who catch fish like me can do it 100% of the time, skin on or off.

Death From Above · 11-23-2007, 11:43 AM

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wishiniwasfishin07 (11/20/2007)You obviously don't know what your talking about. How are they supposed to know what kind of fish and how big it was if all you have is filets? What if they are Red Snapper? undersized Grouper? They are just doing their job-making sure we take care of the wildlife.

You don't know what you are talking about! Nothing else looks like a flounder filet. You must not fish much if you can can't tell a snapper or grouper filet from a flounder filet.

No, actually I do know what I'm talking about. Nobody in the world can look at a fillet and make a 100% positive identification of the species and size of fish it came from. You must not fish much if you don't know its a rule that a fish must be kept in whole condition until it's brought ashore. Go look on myFWC.com, and search it up- it's a Basic Recreational Saltwater Fishing Regulation. Maybe you should go back to the basics. How does FWC know it has already been ashore? they don't hence the ticket.

EDIT: attached is the regulations. Read the sentence just after the chart.

My comment wasn't about the law. I know the law and the basis for it. I was referring toYOU not being able to tell a flounder filet from other fish filets. Most people who catch fish like me can do it 100% of the time, skin on or off.

EDIT: I almost forgot something. :Flipbird

Midnight Rider · 11-23-2007, 03:02 PM

Happy Holidays Everybody. :doh:doh:doh

JoshH · 11-23-2007, 06:20 PM

OK we can just go along with that....:looser

Instant Karma · 11-23-2007, 07:06 PM

My 2 cents...

Many times I have had people on my boat who wanted to clean the fish on the way in. I have always said no because of the rules. That being said I think it is shitty on the Officer to write a ticket in this situation. A little common sense should prevail here. What other species could it be??? If it is a speck, the filets are long enough. Obviously it was not snapper based on the type boat he was in.

Dude, I think you got screwed...

jspooney · 11-23-2007, 08:00 PM

I agree that the law is to keep people from abusing our fisheries, but the FWC officer should have used better discretion in this situation. He could have easily called the guy who was dropped off to verify the story. Furthermore, based on the information posted, it should have been easy to tell that it was a legal flounder. I can definitely tell the difference between a flounder fillet and another fillet and I am a casual fisherman. PLUS...you can only gig a few species of fish. To say the FWC cannot use discretion is bunk. State troopers, city police and sheriff deputies do it every day. It is up to the officer to decide to ticket or not. I fully support our law enforcement officers, but based on the post, this officer was wrong. Ignorance is no excuse, but every one of us has unintentionally offended the law at some time. We just didn't get caught.

lil_fisherman · 11-24-2007, 07:40 AM

when i had my little 14' river boat, i did alot of shark fishing. i got checked ALOT, fwc around here got to the point that they recognized me, and of course they taught me quite a few do's and dont's. if you got a ticket for that flounder, i'm only guessing, but you must have threw the waste away...big no no if ya did. you CAN fillet or cut a fish into pieces on your boat, you MUST have ALL the pieces. then your legal. the "man" told me alot of times, you can cut it up into little chunks-but must be able to put it all together like a finished puzzle. now if you did have all the pieces, and still do (hopefully frozen) then you can fight the ticket. i'm sure someone will interpret the book different, and i dont care, i know what i was told by at least 6 different officers at least 6 different times. tite linez and hope to see ya out there soon.

Edited: you can cut them up to put them in your cooler, most sharks dont fit in coolers that sit in a 14 foot river boat-unless you MAKE them fit. and that law only applies to a fish that is regulated, ie...flounder, redfish, shark, etc.... not anything that your allowed to use as bait.

11-23-2007, 09:40 AM	#21
Frayed Knot Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North SIder Posts: 196	RE: Monday Flounder Report and Rant Dude, It's easy to tell the difference. Flounder is almost blue.

11-23-2007, 03:02 PM	#24
Midnight Rider Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cantonment, Florida. Posts: 1,558	RE: Monday Flounder Report and Rant Happy Holidays Everybody. :doh:doh:doh

11-23-2007, 06:20 PM	#25
JoshH Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Beulah Posts: 1,477	RE: Monday Flounder Report and Rant OK we can just go along with that....:looser

11-23-2007, 07:06 PM	#26
Instant Karma Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 280	RE: Monday Flounder Report and Rant My 2 cents... Many times I have had people on my boat who wanted to clean the fish on the way in. I have always said no because of the rules. That being said I think it is shitty on the Officer to write a ticket in this situation. A little common sense should prevail here. What other species could it be??? If it is a speck, the filets are long enough. Obviously it was not snapper based on the type boat he was in. Dude, I think you got screwed...

11-23-2007, 08:00 PM	#27
jspooney Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,422	RE: Monday Flounder Report and Rant I agree that the law is to keep people from abusing our fisheries, but the FWC officer should have used better discretion in this situation. He could have easily called the guy who was dropped off to verify the story. Furthermore, based on the information posted, it should have been easy to tell that it was a legal flounder. I can definitely tell the difference between a flounder fillet and another fillet and I am a casual fisherman. PLUS...you can only gig a few species of fish. To say the FWC cannot use discretion is bunk. State troopers, city police and sheriff deputies do it every day. It is up to the officer to decide to ticket or not. I fully support our law enforcement officers, but based on the post, this officer was wrong. Ignorance is no excuse, but every one of us has unintentionally offended the law at some time. We just didn't get caught.

11-24-2007, 07:40 AM	#28
lil_fisherman Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ???h?ñ Posts: 244	RE: Monday Flounder Report and Rant when i had my little 14' river boat, i did alot of shark fishing. i got checked ALOT, fwc around here got to the point that they recognized me, and of course they taught me quite a few do's and dont's. if you got a ticket for that flounder, i'm only guessing, but you must have threw the waste away...big no no if ya did. you CAN fillet or cut a fish into pieces on your boat, you MUST have ALL the pieces. then your legal. the "man" told me alot of times, you can cut it up into little chunks-but must be able to put it all together like a finished puzzle. now if you did have all the pieces, and still do (hopefully frozen) then you can fight the ticket. i'm sure someone will interpret the book different, and i dont care, i know what i was told by at least 6 different officers at least 6 different times. tite linez and hope to see ya out there soon. Edited: you can cut them up to put them in your cooler, most sharks dont fit in coolers that sit in a 14 foot river boat-unless you MAKE them fit. and that law only applies to a fish that is regulated, ie...flounder, redfish, shark, etc.... not anything that your allowed to use as bait.

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