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Old 07-24-2008, 07:08 PM   #21
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I 'm running a Coleman powermate 2250/1850 with 15 amp out put, its clear I'm drawing more than the rated amp load and that may be my problem.


That is your problem! Plus now we do know what your running. we were speulating before as you didn't tell us.



Your overloading the generator. Try and keep the max below that 1850.

You can burn a generator up running above the continuous power constantly.





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Using 1" zinc plated material, the mount is pretty stationary. I tried using 3/4" aluminum first but it was too wobbly.


I'm guessing that is something you had laying around? I hope you didn't go out and buy it?



It needs to be 1 1/2on to 2in wide alum. in 1/4in. You have a alum boat. Use alum.



Also round those sharp 90deg corners off. Sooner or later someone will get ripped open on them + it just looks finished.



I've been on a boat that the bracket broke in some rough water that kicked up. It's ain't no fun seeing the light beat the Hell out of the boat and you can't do anything about it at the time.



These HPS's are more money than a $10 Halogen.



Remember they get a lot of bouncing on the trailer too.



The boat does look good.







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14 gauge wire is only good for 15-20 amps




The standard in household 110V circuit is 14ga for a 15amp circuit and 12ga for a 20amp circuit.














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Old 07-24-2008, 07:30 PM   #22
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Good looking set up
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bbb I'm like X Shark I think you need to make those brackets out of a heavier pc. of SS or Alum.

I bet they put out a hell of lot of light

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Thanks for the bowfishing website X shark. I have read alot of reports and the it seemed the consensus is that the yellow light from a HPS is better at seeing in muddy water than a metal halide which is what I have. I read on the bowfishing website that they make a bulb that you can put in a metal halide light that will be yellowish liks a HPS. Does anyone know if this is true. If so I would like to get one so I will have a bulb for clear and dirty water. I spent 160 bucks on my metal halide light and I dont want to scrap it for a HPS yet.
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Old 07-25-2008, 05:17 AM   #25
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Your looking for a bulb that is either has a 2000K or 2300K light spectrum.



That will give you a yellowish light.



What you have is more than likely in the 4300K light spectrum.



This is a brighter White.



While this pix is from a car headlight site, it still has merit as to the color spectrum of lighting.










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Old 07-25-2008, 08:13 AM   #26
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I 'm running a Coleman powermate 2250/1850 with 15 amp out put, its clear I'm drawing more than the rated amp load and that may be my problem.
That is your problem! Plus now we do know what your running. we were speulating before as you didn't tell us.

Your overloading the generator. Try and keep the max below that 1850.
You can burn a generator up running above the continuous power constantly.


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Using 1" zinc plated material, the mount is pretty stationary. I tried using 3/4" aluminum first but it was too wobbly.
I'm guessing that is something you had laying around? I hope you didn't go out and buy it?

It needs to be 1 1/2on to 2in wide alum. in 1/4in. You have a alum boat. Use alum.

Also round those sharp 90deg corners off. Sooner or later someone will get ripped open on them + it just looks finished.

I've been on a boat that the bracket broke in some rough water that kicked up. It's ain't no fun seeing the light beat the Hell out of the boat and you can't do anything about it at the time.

These HPS's are more money than a $10 Halogen.

Remember they get a lot of bouncing on the trailer too.

The boat does look good.



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14 gauge wire is only good for 15-20 amps

The standard in household 110V circuit is 14ga for a 15amp circuit and 12ga for a 20amp circuit.






X-shark, I'm running six (6) 150 watt hps lights, thats 900 watts plus my on board charger that pulls less than 100 watts so I'm around 1000 watts. Am I missing something on the wattage or did you miss calulate on the wattage?

Also I bought aluminum flat bar (1.5"x.25"x20') for $45 behind Town and Country Plaza for my brackets.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:18 AM   #27
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Flounder9.75 (7/24/2008)bbb I'm like X Shark I think you need to make those brackets out of a heavier pc. of SS or Alum.
Good thing its only money. I'm about to make a 40 mile drive to work and then a 40 mile drive to the coast. Then a 80 mile ride home. I'll let you know how many lights I leave on the side of the road.

The reason I scrapped the aluminum idea was because when I bent the 3/4 inch piece, it had stress cracks on the bend and again it was flimsy. Guess I'll make my 6th trip to Home Depot in 4 days and pick up some thicker/wide strap aluminum and make the frames out of it while the kids take a nap.

Hope its a long nap because I should havecapacitors to install too.

Last night I did a test run on the Honda 2000 and I turned one light at a time on. When I got to the 5th light, the Honda tripped. But the 4th light hadn't completely warmed up yet so I did it again letting 4 lights get warm and then plugging the 5th in. No problem doing it that way.
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Flounder9.75 (7/24/2008)bbb I'm like X Shark I think you need to make those brackets out of a heavier pc. of SS or Alum.
Good thing its only money. I'm about to make a 40 mile drive to work and then a 40 mile drive to the coast. Then a 80 mile ride home. I'll let you know how many lights I leave on the side of the road.

The reason I scrapped the aluminum idea was because when I bent the 3/4 inch piece, it had stress cracks on the bend and again it was flimsy. Guess I'll make my 6th trip to Home Depot in 4 days and pick up some thicker/wide strap aluminum and make the frames out of it while the kids take a nap.

Hope its a long nap because I should havecapacitors to install too.

Last night I did a test run on the Honda 2000 and I turned one light at a time on. When I got to the 5th light, the Honda tripped. But the 4th light hadn't completely warmed up yet so I did it again letting 4 lights get warm and then plugging the 5th in. No problem doing it that way.


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I understand the money thing for sure ( that's why I'm runnin Halos) And Alum don't bend real good,that's why I suggested SS. I would ck some scrap yards or fab shops for some scraps. I made mine from some scrap plate I found just cut them out the size I wanted with a disc grinder with a cut off wheel,
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:19 AM   #29
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You guys should check with Timmy at Breeze Fab. He has some Alum and SS scraps around the shop that he may be willing to sell cheap. He could also weld up some nice looking brackets for not a lot of money and do it pretty quickly. Give him a call or find him on the forum under Breeze Fabricators. Rick.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:25 PM   #30
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Gnwdad Without measuring everything, I can't tell you. But you have exceeded something.


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