IFA Redfish Tour

Brad King · 08-06-2008, 02:09 PM

With an entry fee of $400 an event, why is the payout so small?

Is it participation?

Voodoo Lounge · 08-06-2008, 02:16 PM

Don't know the answer, but this should get good as soon as Phillips/Mcleod get hold of it!!

Brad King · 08-06-2008, 02:21 PM

Uh-Oh! Did I stir the pot?

Brant Peacher · 08-06-2008, 03:24 PM

Good question! Thats one reason they are losing a good number of boats and good fishermen. 30 teams in the last navarre tourny and only like 48 in panama city.Its makes to where you have to finish in the top 3 to make any kind of money. Once you prefish for a few days, stay in a hotel a couple nights, and pay for all your food, gas, ect you dont have a chance to break even unless you win the tourny.

Ill fish the rest of the tour this year just because I want to finish and fish the championship but not sure what I will do next year.

Brant Peacher
manufacturers rep

Brad King · 08-06-2008, 03:37 PM

I am planning to fish 6 events next year. The Gulf Coast / Louisiana Divisions. But I want it to be worth it.

Brad King · 08-06-2008, 05:21 PM

Here is a copy of the E-Mail I just received from IFA. That doesn't seem to bad for a one day deal. I'm in!!

Brad,

You are not miss reading it. The guaranteed 1st place prize at each of our 18 events during the year is a Ranger Banshee, equipped with a 40 HP, 4-stroke Yamaha outboard, Loadmaster trailer, Power Pole shallow water anchor, Minn Kota trolling motor and Humminbird electronics. This means no matter how many boats show up to fish, 1st place will be a boat. And here are some examples of our payout - if 50 or more boats show up, we pay 20 spots with 1st being a boat. If 100 boats show, we pay 20 spots, 1st being a boat and 2nd being $6,000.

If you fish is just 3 events during the year, you qualify to go to the no-entry fee Championship where 1st place is a Ranger 173 Ghost with a 115 HP, 4-stroke Yamaha outboard, Power Pole shallow water anchor, MinnKota trolling motor and Humminbird electronics, estimated retail value of $34,000.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Best regards,

Christy Schad

I mis-read something earlier about the payout. I thought the pay out was only like $1500 for first, and that depending on your boat and motor. This is alot better. It's a tourney and the only way you should make any money is to perform well. I don't like tourneys that pay 20-30 places, top 5 at best is good enough. It's like gambling. Your skills against someone else's. The BEST man wins.

But then again, I do loose every tournament I enter. So who am I to judge a tournament for It's payout. Anyway thanks for the feed back on the IFA guys. I really appreciate it, and I look forward to next season!!!!!!

sc23 · 08-06-2008, 05:53 PM

Brad,

It's fact, you can't fish the tour, and finish in the black.

Brad King · 08-06-2008, 06:12 PM

Yeah, the way I look at is.......If your gonna fish a tournament and are just hoping to place in the top 25 so you can make some of your money back, Why even fish a tourney? It takes away alot of the Risk/Reward factor that makes tournaments so exciting.

Voodoo Lounge · 08-06-2008, 06:25 PM

We (myself and Wharfrat) fished Panama city, and then realized the championship dates were in conflict with another trip I have planned so we've skipped the rest of the season. I would also add that it's a little discouraging to have FLW pro's fishing head to head with those of us who arent full time fishermen, especially when those guys are doing some serious butt kicking this year(M&M's)??I will say that the IFA team has been awesome , but until theres more exposure around here, I wouldnt expect much better turnout.

Brant Peacher · 08-06-2008, 06:35 PM

I finished 5th in the last tournament. If you pm me Ill tell you exactly what i made with expenses and everything.The last tournament they paid 5 places and the pcity tournement they paid 10. The only thing I was saying is that making any money on this tour is very hard after expenses. For one your not going to be able to compete without prefishing and thats where most of our money goes. Panama city for example, we prefished all week spending lots of moneyon gas, food, and hotels. If you dont place in the top 3 then its not worth it. Im sure Chris and Matt feel the same way.And yes, I always fish a tournament expecting to win but in redfish tournamentsthere is a lot of luck involved in getting a win. Lots of people find fish but catching the fat fish takes some luck!

Im not downing the IFA at all. Im just saying its more of a fun laid back event compared to other professional tours. Dont go in expecting to make money. If youlike redfishing and enjoy competition then this tour should fit you.

Brant Peacher
manufacturers rep

08-06-2008, 02:09 PM	#1
Brad King Senior Member White Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 2,958	IFA Redfish Tour With an entry fee of $400 an event, why is the payout so small? Is it participation? __________________ Capt. Brad King South Again Charters LLC www.southagain.com captbrad@southagain.com Inshore/Nearshore Charters

08-06-2008, 02:16 PM	#2
Voodoo Lounge Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,210	RE: IFA Redfish Tour Don't know the answer, but this should get good as soon as Phillips/Mcleod get hold of it!!

08-06-2008, 02:21 PM	#3
Brad King Senior Member White Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 2,958	RE: IFA Redfish Tour Uh-Oh! Did I stir the pot? __________________ Capt. Brad King South Again Charters LLC www.southagain.com captbrad@southagain.com Inshore/Nearshore Charters

08-06-2008, 03:24 PM	#4
Brant Peacher Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola Posts: 914	RE: IFA Redfish Tour Good question! Thats one reason they are losing a good number of boats and good fishermen. 30 teams in the last navarre tourny and only like 48 in panama city.Its makes to where you have to finish in the top 3 to make any kind of money. Once you prefish for a few days, stay in a hotel a couple nights, and pay for all your food, gas, ect you dont have a chance to break even unless you win the tourny. Ill fish the rest of the tour this year just because I want to finish and fish the championship but not sure what I will do next year. Brant Peacher manufacturers rep

08-06-2008, 03:37 PM	#5
Brad King Senior Member White Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 2,958	RE: IFA Redfish Tour I am planning to fish 6 events next year. The Gulf Coast / Louisiana Divisions. But I want it to be worth it. __________________ Capt. Brad King South Again Charters LLC www.southagain.com captbrad@southagain.com Inshore/Nearshore Charters

08-06-2008, 05:21 PM	#6
Brad King Senior Member White Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 2,958	RE: IFA Redfish Tour Here is a copy of the E-Mail I just received from IFA. That doesn't seem to bad for a one day deal. I'm in!! Brad, You are not miss reading it. The guaranteed 1st place prize at each of our 18 events during the year is a Ranger Banshee, equipped with a 40 HP, 4-stroke Yamaha outboard, Loadmaster trailer, Power Pole shallow water anchor, Minn Kota trolling motor and Humminbird electronics. This means no matter how many boats show up to fish, 1st place will be a boat. And here are some examples of our payout - if 50 or more boats show up, we pay 20 spots with 1st being a boat. If 100 boats show, we pay 20 spots, 1st being a boat and 2nd being $6,000. If you fish is just 3 events during the year, you qualify to go to the no-entry fee Championship where 1st place is a Ranger 173 Ghost with a 115 HP, 4-stroke Yamaha outboard, Power Pole shallow water anchor, MinnKota trolling motor and Humminbird electronics, estimated retail value of $34,000. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Best regards, Christy Schad I mis-read something earlier about the payout. I thought the pay out was only like $1500 for first, and that depending on your boat and motor. This is alot better. It's a tourney and the only way you should make any money is to perform well. I don't like tourneys that pay 20-30 places, top 5 at best is good enough. It's like gambling. Your skills against someone else's. The BEST man wins. But then again, I do loose every tournament I enter. So who am I to judge a tournament for It's payout. Anyway thanks for the feed back on the IFA guys. I really appreciate it, and I look forward to next season!!!!!! __________________ Capt. Brad King South Again Charters LLC www.southagain.com captbrad@southagain.com Inshore/Nearshore Charters

08-06-2008, 05:53 PM	#7
sc23 Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Orange Beach Posts: 154	RE: IFA Redfish Tour Brad, It's fact, you can't fish the tour, and finish in the black.

08-06-2008, 06:12 PM	#8
Brad King Senior Member White Marlin Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 2,958	RE: IFA Redfish Tour Yeah, the way I look at is.......If your gonna fish a tournament and are just hoping to place in the top 25 so you can make some of your money back, Why even fish a tourney? It takes away alot of the Risk/Reward factor that makes tournaments so exciting. __________________ Capt. Brad King South Again Charters LLC www.southagain.com captbrad@southagain.com Inshore/Nearshore Charters

08-06-2008, 06:25 PM	#9
Voodoo Lounge Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,210	RE: IFA Redfish Tour We (myself and Wharfrat) fished Panama city, and then realized the championship dates were in conflict with another trip I have planned so we've skipped the rest of the season. I would also add that it's a little discouraging to have FLW pro's fishing head to head with those of us who arent full time fishermen, especially when those guys are doing some serious butt kicking this year(M&M's)??I will say that the IFA team has been awesome , but until theres more exposure around here, I wouldnt expect much better turnout.

08-06-2008, 06:35 PM	#10
Brant Peacher Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola Posts: 914	RE: IFA Redfish Tour I finished 5th in the last tournament. If you pm me Ill tell you exactly what i made with expenses and everything.The last tournament they paid 5 places and the pcity tournement they paid 10. The only thing I was saying is that making any money on this tour is very hard after expenses. For one your not going to be able to compete without prefishing and thats where most of our money goes. Panama city for example, we prefished all week spending lots of moneyon gas, food, and hotels. If you dont place in the top 3 then its not worth it. Im sure Chris and Matt feel the same way.And yes, I always fish a tournament expecting to win but in redfish tournamentsthere is a lot of luck involved in getting a win. Lots of people find fish but catching the fat fish takes some luck! Im not downing the IFA at all. Im just saying its more of a fun laid back event compared to other professional tours. Dont go in expecting to make money. If youlike redfishing and enjoy competition then this tour should fit you. Brant Peacher manufacturers rep

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