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Old 06-27-2008, 05:34 PM   #11
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watch these....maybe they will help ya....Stephen


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Old 06-27-2008, 05:56 PM   #12
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ditchdoctor81 (6/27/2008)Nice looking knot. I have never used the metal things they sell at stores to tie them....do they work pretty good?
Those gadgets suck. We bought one quite awhile ago & tried using it but it just sucked to put it lightly. (my opinion of it)

Practice &you shouldfind yourself gettingbetter & better at it. http://www.florida-offshore.com/content-74.html= another How To with pics as well.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:11 PM   #13
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I tried one of those too. It was way harder to do it with the device than by hand.

Just keep practicing, your haywire twists will get neater.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:00 PM   #14
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send me a PM the next time you go to the pier... i'll meet you out there and by the end of the day, you'll be tying perfect haywire twists....

it takes alot of practice....

i can tie singlestrand perfect just about every time, even the real big stuff....

now, seven strand.... it's a bit tricky with the small stuff (18#, 27#)... don't EVER EVVEEERRRR use 40# sevenstrand.... it's big enough to where it usually doesn't fit between the mack's teeth, yet small enough to where they can cut it... i personally will only use 60# sevenstrand, for a few reasons,

it's easy to tie,

it's big enough to where MOST OF THE TIME kings won't cut it,

when snobling baits, the sevenstrand has a bit of 'play' in it, (not as stiff as singlestrand) and IMHO gives your bait a better action,

and it is big enough that it usually deters spanish and juvy kings from eating your bait....

when it comes to singlestrand, i usually wrap 3-4 loose twists, then follow up with 8-9 tight twists, there is also a process that you can do to the tag end, where you twist it a cetain wayand it will break off clean, so you don't have to clip it and leave wire that pricks you in the fingers(admit it, it's happened before oke)

sevenstrand, i will tie one overhand knot, and then go straight to 10-12 tight wraps... then clip. I use this method on everything from 18# to 135# ... (any bigger than that, there is a way to braid the wire, it is pretty neat, and works extremely well on 400# and 800# sevenstrand, and it's way stronger than crimps)

if anyone wants to learn these, i'd be more than happy to show them, as it is pretty difficult to explain without showing someone in person
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:59 PM   #15
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Agree with several of the posts above: practice

But, to try to help you, remember this: twist, then wrap

The first few twists are just that: twists. Hold the two crossed ends with the pliers as show in the photo above and make sure they cross at a 90 degree angle. Then twist them evenly together.

Then you finish with wraps, where one end is wrapped around the other.

The really neat trick is to break off the tag end rather than cutting it. After the wraps you make a 90 degree bend in the tag end about an inch from the wraps. Then bend this back and forth. The wire will break right at the last twist and will not leave a small end sticking out to grab your hand. If you cut it rather than bend and break it will leave a small end sticking out that will rip you hand open.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:21 PM   #16
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Yall wernt kidding about pokeing your finger, that crap hurts:reallycrying

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:37 PM   #17
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backlash try this.....a great rigging guy showed me this and it works, it will eventually get easier to do by hand.....this leaves no sharp point to prick your finger with...

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:46 PM   #18
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Thanks for the tips Bluff, will try some more after work,
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:58 PM   #19
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i have used the EZ Twist tool (looks like a silver bullet) for years. i have probably tied a thousand rigs with that tool. it does take some practice and some concentration on the amount of pressure you apply but hang in there. i wouldn't tie a king rig without one.

backlash- i will be making up rigs every night this week.(getting ready for the ADSFR) you are more than welcome to come over and get some tips.

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:30 PM   #20
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