Backlash

No matter what I did nothing worked, was atp'cola pier yesterday,

use live hardtails , cig. minnows , i watched the other

guys and tryed to do as they did, nothing, can someone

give me some tips??

Cuz

Be patient is the first thing. Pier fishing has to be learned, your doing the right thing by paying attention what others are doing. Make sure you make your own leaders and such, don't buy the pre-made. Patients and you'll get one.

Backlash

I was useing 36" steel leader, isaw other people useing them?

I did not make them, tryed two kinds, a double king rig, and a 36"

steel leader with a treble hook? which is right?:banghead

Cuz

Try this, use 32 lb. bronze color single strand about 14 inches long, black barrel swivel and #1 3x strong treble hook. Instructions of how to tie a haywire twist are on the back of the leader package.

L.Crooke

heres how to tie your own king leader....

http://emeraldcoastpierfishing.myfas...&highlight=

thanks to calvin!

jigslinger

:bowdownclap3' is a little long... Maybe half that IMO.

Dylan

Im with Luke..thanksto Tyler for the post

captken

I use a Snell Knot for the hook. I do not run the leader through the eye of the treble so it will hang perfectly straight. Here is a photo of a #4 hook on 18# 7-Strand cable. Actually, I seldom use a treble hook, opting instead for a 4/0 single offset type hook.



I don't use a swivel down here because tiny Spanish mackerel love them whether they are black, brass or silver. I tie my mono directly to the wire using a Bristol Knot. The Bristol works a lot better for me than an Albright.



If anybody needs better photos, I'll take them off the e-Book but may not get to it tonight.

This is one of many rigs shown in Fishcatching101.

By-the-way, I can tie this rig in a minute (MOL). Of course, I've tied it a thousand times.

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Clay-Doh

Look down in the post!!! There is a free Kingfishing seminar tonite at Flounders!

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grouper1963

A few suggestions:

- Timing is essential for the AM king run. Be at the pier in the water before daybreak - 5AM or so. You can catch the bigger smokers anytime but the schoolies and snakes roam close in the AM.

- Too much jewelry is bad news as kings have large eyes and can be leader shy. Use the least amount of wire and small kingfishswivels;I use 12 inches or so. You can add floro as a leader for abrasion.

- Learn to tie the 10 minute kingfish rig. I looked for the instructions online but could not find. I think I have the info in a mag somewhere. I'll scan and send if I can find it. BTW - solid wire is OK but I prefer seven-strand. Use 4x hooks.

- Live hardtails will swim back to structure if freelined in light current. If so, keep them closeon the hook in the water ready to cast or put them out on a balloon. I prefer cigars since, even when dead, you can make them look lively. BIG POINT - If a bait looks like crap, change it out. A wallowed/hollowed out cigar minnow won't entice a anything.

- Hook the bait correctly, I hook through the nose (nostril to nostril) and not the lips. They live longer.

- Let the fish eat. Too often people get a king interested, he follows, then the bait is pulled away. This also applies to the kingfish slash. Often, kings slice off the rear end of the bait then circle for the final munch. If they slash, the bait is supposed to be disabled - don't pull it away.

Kings aren't hard to catch, but you have to do the wait thing from the pier. I've found the best times are between full or new moons, southeast wind, clear water withwave action. I'm no pro but I certainly have caught my share of kings.

Two big smokers last year - 55lbs and 35lbs...released the rest.