oxidized paint

pierbound · 07-09-2012, 05:18 PM

I have a 2006 26ft. Proline walk blue and white and the blue is oxidized and I need some tips on what to use to get the color back.

Ocean Master · 07-09-2012, 07:46 PM

I like using Presta Ultra Cutting Creme with a rotary buffer and wool pads. It will remove the oxidation and polish the finish in one step. If you're not comfortable with using a rotary buffer there are detailing company's here on this forum.

pierbound · 07-09-2012, 09:47 PM

I haven't tried that brand I have tried regular rubbing compound and a marine brand, I can't remember the name right now. they both take some of the oxidization out but not all, I wish I would have gotten a total white boat what a pain, I paid $200 about a year ago to a friend's son and he did good but 3 months later the chalky white started bleeding thru

Xpac · 07-09-2012, 10:11 PM

thanks for the reference. i have the same problem with my sea pro 21'. the hull is crimson and white. great color combo by the way

. it has some oxidation on one side so im looking forward to trying the Presto. ill post the results

Ocean Master · 07-11-2012, 10:26 AM

I all depends on the application too. Presta is made to start slow with the buffer and then speed up to polish the finish. I always used 3m compounds and then Finesse-It until Tom Kennedy showed me the Presta. Patriot Yacht Services here on this forum.

pierbound · 07-11-2012, 04:53 PM

Is there a place locally or order it online?

oxbeast1210 · 07-11-2012, 05:01 PM

Ocean master is there a buffer you recommend?

Ocean Master · 07-11-2012, 06:27 PM

I use the Dewalt rotor buffer but the Makita is lighter. My Makita burned up a couple of years ago. Both of them are variable speed and if I were to buy a new one it would be the Makita. You have to buy an adapter for the wool pads to screw on to the buffer.

Patriot · 07-12-2012, 10:01 AM

Lots of good info on this topic available via forum search.

Your boat is not painted. It is gel coated from the factory. Gel coat is a polyester resin based product that serves to protect the underlaying laminate structures of the hull and cap while presenting a nice smooth surface on the exterior. Without the gel coat layer, the hull would need to be smoothed, filled, primed and painted....much like a car. The gel coat achieves all that in the layup process in the mold.

Dark colors like blue and red tend to break down faster than light colors. The pigments in the gel coat bleed out. Additionally, if not protected, the gel coat will oxidize from element exposure.

What you need to do is wetsand the surface of the gel coat.

This will remove the outer oxidized layer of gel coat, exposing fresh below.

Then you will need to polish out the surfaces and apply a quality PTFE polish to protect the new surface from the elements.

This is not brain surgury, but does take some experience to do it right and not remove too much gel coat in the sanding process.

Like Ocean Master said, there are detailers and gel coat pros, me included, that do this type of restoration on a daily basis.

If you are not comfortible with the wetsanding part, give me or any of them a call.

oxbeast1210 · 07-24-2012, 11:55 PM

Does anyone sell presta locally?

07-09-2012, 05:18 PM	#1
pierbound Member Ruby Red Lip Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Navarre,Fl Posts: 80	oxidized paint I have a 2006 26ft. Proline walk blue and white and the blue is oxidized and I need some tips on what to use to get the color back.

07-09-2012, 07:46 PM	#2
Ocean Master Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gulf Breeze Intercoastal Posts: 2,070	I like using Presta Ultra Cutting Creme with a rotary buffer and wool pads. It will remove the oxidation and polish the finish in one step. If you're not comfortable with using a rotary buffer there are detailing company's here on this forum. __________________ "How I Roll" On channel 68 "Wheelchair Accessible Fishing"

07-11-2012, 10:26 AM	#5
Ocean Master Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gulf Breeze Intercoastal Posts: 2,070	I all depends on the application too. Presta is made to start slow with the buffer and then speed up to polish the finish. I always used 3m compounds and then Finesse-It until Tom Kennedy showed me the Presta. Patriot Yacht Services here on this forum. __________________ "How I Roll" On channel 68 "Wheelchair Accessible Fishing"

07-11-2012, 06:27 PM	#8
Ocean Master Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gulf Breeze Intercoastal Posts: 2,070	I use the Dewalt rotor buffer but the Makita is lighter. My Makita burned up a couple of years ago. Both of them are variable speed and if I were to buy a new one it would be the Makita. You have to buy an adapter for the wool pads to screw on to the buffer. __________________ "How I Roll" On channel 68 "Wheelchair Accessible Fishing" Last edited by Ocean Master; 07-15-2012 at 07:30 PM.

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07-09-2012, 09:47 PM	#3
pierbound Member Ruby Red Lip Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Navarre,Fl Posts: 80	I haven't tried that brand I have tried regular rubbing compound and a marine brand, I can't remember the name right now. they both take some of the oxidization out but not all, I wish I would have gotten a total white boat what a pain, I paid $200 about a year ago to a friend's son and he did good but 3 months later the chalky white started bleeding thru

07-09-2012, 10:11 PM	#4
Xpac Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 186	thanks for the reference. i have the same problem with my sea pro 21'. the hull is crimson and white. great color combo by the way . it has some oxidation on one side so im looking forward to trying the Presto. ill post the results

07-11-2012, 04:53 PM	#6
pierbound Member Ruby Red Lip Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Navarre,Fl Posts: 80	Is there a place locally or order it online?

07-11-2012, 05:01 PM	#7
oxbeast1210 Senior Member Blue Marlin Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: milton Posts: 5,505	Ocean master is there a buffer you recommend?

07-12-2012, 10:01 AM	#9
Patriot Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 760	Lots of good info on this topic available via forum search. Your boat is not painted. It is gel coated from the factory. Gel coat is a polyester resin based product that serves to protect the underlaying laminate structures of the hull and cap while presenting a nice smooth surface on the exterior. Without the gel coat layer, the hull would need to be smoothed, filled, primed and painted....much like a car. The gel coat achieves all that in the layup process in the mold. Dark colors like blue and red tend to break down faster than light colors. The pigments in the gel coat bleed out. Additionally, if not protected, the gel coat will oxidize from element exposure. What you need to do is wetsand the surface of the gel coat. This will remove the outer oxidized layer of gel coat, exposing fresh below. Then you will need to polish out the surfaces and apply a quality PTFE polish to protect the new surface from the elements. This is not brain surgury, but does take some experience to do it right and not remove too much gel coat in the sanding process. Like Ocean Master said, there are detailers and gel coat pros, me included, that do this type of restoration on a daily basis. If you are not comfortible with the wetsanding part, give me or any of them a call.

07-24-2012, 11:55 PM	#10
oxbeast1210 Senior Member Blue Marlin Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: milton Posts: 5,505	Does anyone sell presta locally?

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