F225 impeller/pump isn't working

seacapt · 03-11-2010, 03:39 PM

The motor is a 2003 with maybe 30 hours on the new impeller (spent $750.00[/B] last Aug having the annual done). The boat sat up all winter (started it once) and now the engine won?t pee. Tried everything I can think of. Connected a hose and blew water through the top and bottom of the engine, I did get good water through the pee hole from the hose being connected on top but still nothing with the engine running. Ran the motor in the water and with rabbit ears, nothing. Ran it in and out of gear and at varied rpm?s with no luck. The motor eventually gets hot and the buzzer goes off so I shut it down.I?m out of ideas other than changing the impeller, so I?m asking if there?s anything I?ve missed to break this thing loose and salvage it or do I need to just change it? Anyone ever done one? I?m not paying those prices again, I?m planning to try it myself (it will probably cost me more by the time I mess it up and pay someone to fix it). Any gouge would be great, thanks.

sealark · 03-11-2010, 04:08 PM

If you changed the impeller as soon ago as you say I'll bet the pea hole is fouled. I have has a small shell in mine and it wouldn't pee. On my johnson you can remove the fitting and run it and it will flush anything out. Take a flashlight and look into the pee hole and see if you can see something blocking it. I am not familiar with other engines other than OMCs.

The Maintenance Shoppe · 03-11-2010, 04:08 PM

Changing an impeller should cost $20-$50 for impeller to complete kit and 1-1.5 hrs labor, our labor rate is $79 an hour.

The Maintenance Shoppe · 03-11-2010, 04:10 PM

If your overheat alarm is going off, it is not a blocked pee hole.

user5505 · 03-11-2010, 04:18 PM

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sealark (3/11/2010)If you changed the impeller as soon ago as you say I'll bet the pea hole is fouled. I have has a small shell in mine and it wouldn't pee. On my johnson you can remove the fitting and run it and it will flush anything out. Take a flashlight and look into the pee hole and see if you can see something blocking it. I am not familiar with other engines other than OMCs.

Ron!!!! Quit talking about the pee hole on your Johnson!!!!! Pervert!!! :letsdrink

I would contact the mechanic/shop that charged you that much money, and get them to rectify it. The impeller shouldn't stop working in 30 hrs unless the 30 hrs was 4 yrs ago. :usaflag

sealark · 03-11-2010, 04:29 PM

Scott only a retarded retired marine would come up with that.. Besides it's my Johnson and my Pee hole and I can say anything I want. They wont cover anything with an impeller they will just say you ran aground and picked up sand and ruined the impeller. I would still bet HIS pee hole:doh is fouled. If the engine has a overheat buzzer on it fire it up in the yard and run it if it doesn't go off then it's most likely what I say..

sosmarine · 03-11-2010, 09:15 PM

Last line first pargraph.

The motor eventually gets hot and the buzzer goes off so I shut it down.

Like TMS said,a clod uppee hole will not cause an O/H. I have had Yamaha's that were stubborn and had to remove the thermostats and back flush.

seacapt · 03-11-2010, 10:29 PM

Yes I've tried it with the motor in the water and with a hose and rabbit ears, no luck. Iteventually overheats either way. With the hose connected to the top hose connector water flows normally out of the pee hole.

sosmarine · 03-11-2010, 11:07 PM

When you have the hose connected to the top, flush hose, are you running the motor?

DOUBLE "D" & LV · 03-12-2010, 12:09 AM

Change the impeller. Good chance it spun the hub (not the propeller hub) and the impeller is not turning. I have had it happen before. If what you say is happening, that's what I would check first to be sure.

03-11-2010, 03:39 PM	#1
seacapt Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 490	F225 impeller/pump isn't working <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">The motor is a 2003 with maybe 30 hours on the new impeller (spent <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>$750.00</U>[/B] last Aug having the annual done). The boat sat up all winter (started it once) and now the engine won?t pee. Tried everything I can think of. Connected a hose and blew water through the top and bottom of the engine, I did get good water through the pee hole from the hose being connected on top but still nothing with the engine running. Ran the motor in the water and with rabbit ears, nothing. Ran it in and out of gear and at varied rpm?s with no luck. The motor eventually gets hot and the buzzer goes off so I shut it down.<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt">I?m out of ideas other than changing the impeller, so I?m asking if there?s anything I?ve missed to break this thing loose and salvage it or do I need to just change it? Anyone ever done one? I?m not paying those prices again, I?m planning to try it myself (it will probably cost me more by the time I mess it up and pay someone to fix it). Any gouge would be great, thanks.

03-11-2010, 04:08 PM	#2
sealark Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pensacola, Sherman Cove Marina Posts: 1,983	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working If you changed the impeller as soon ago as you say I'll bet the pea hole is fouled. I have has a small shell in mine and it wouldn't pee. On my johnson you can remove the fitting and run it and it will flush anything out. Take a flashlight and look into the pee hole and see if you can see something blocking it. I am not familiar with other engines other than OMCs.

03-11-2010, 04:08 PM	#3
The Maintenance Shoppe Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 532	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working Changing an impeller should cost $20-$50 for impeller to complete kit and 1-1.5 hrs labor, our labor rate is $79 an hour. __________________ *The Maintenance Shoppe* Full service boat, pwc, and trailer repair 4048 Creighton Rd Pensacola, FL. 850-221-6789 www.themaintenanceshoppe.com

03-11-2010, 04:10 PM	#4
The Maintenance Shoppe Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 532	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working If your overheat alarm is going off, it is not a blocked pee hole. __________________ *The Maintenance Shoppe* Full service boat, pwc, and trailer repair 4048 Creighton Rd Pensacola, FL. 850-221-6789 www.themaintenanceshoppe.com

03-11-2010, 04:29 PM	#6
sealark Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pensacola, Sherman Cove Marina Posts: 1,983	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working Scott only a retarded retired marine would come up with that.. Besides it's my Johnson and my Pee hole and I can say anything I want. They wont cover anything with an impeller they will just say you ran aground and picked up sand and ruined the impeller. I would still bet HIS pee hole:doh is fouled. If the engine has a overheat buzzer on it fire it up in the yard and run it if it doesn't go off then it's most likely what I say..

03-11-2010, 09:15 PM	#7
sosmarine Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Navarre/Town Center Posts: 1,826	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working Last line first pargraph. The motor eventually gets hot and the buzzer goes off so I shut it down. Like TMS said,a clod uppee hole will not cause an O/H. I have had Yamaha's that were stubborn and had to remove the thermostats and back flush.

03-11-2010, 10:29 PM	#8
seacapt Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 490	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working Yes I've tried it with the motor in the water and with a hose and rabbit ears, no luck. Iteventually overheats either way. With the hose connected to the top hose connector water flows normally out of the pee hole.

03-11-2010, 11:07 PM	#9
sosmarine Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Navarre/Town Center Posts: 1,826	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working When you have the hose connected to the top, flush hose, are you running the motor?

03-12-2010, 12:09 AM	#10
DOUBLE "D" & LV Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: pensacola Posts: 863	RE: F225 impeller/pump isn't working Change the impeller. Good chance it spun the hub (not the propeller hub) and the impeller is not turning. I have had it happen before. If what you say is happening, that's what I would check first to be sure.

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