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Old 11-30-2007, 08:31 AM   #1
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Default We should exercise our right to bear arms against the ACLU...

They make me puke. Here, they aren't even acting on behalf of a player. They are searching for "injustices". The Bowdens are a very religious family. To sue one of them for trying to instill morals and values in their team is downright disgusting.

(got this from an Auburn blog)

This is from fanblogs.com . Will the ACLU come after AU too? We probably do more.

SB<H3>November 29, 2007</H3><H1>Bowden's church trips again targeted by ACLU</H1>

The state of South Carolina sure does get a lot of attention from the national interest groups. If it's not PETA fighting USC about its mascot, then it must be the ACLU raising a stink about Tommy Bowden taking his Clemson Tigers to church. <BLOCKQUOTE>In correspondence obtained Wednesday by The Post and Courier, the ACLU alleged Bowden "has abused his authority as Clemson University's head football coach by imposing his strong personal religious beliefs upon student-athletes under his charge."</BLOCKQUOTE>

The issue game to a head in August when The Greenville News published details of Bowden's "Church Day". The ACLU raised concerns at that time, but the University responded saying that it had looked into the matter and did not see a liberties issue. <BLOCKQUOTE>University counsel Clayton Steadman responded in a Sept. 21 letter, saying an investigation by the university found the ACLU's allegations unfounded because attendance at the church services is voluntary. He wrote that Clemson has no plans to discontinue the function, which has taken place for most of Bowden's nine-year tenure.</BLOCKQUOTE>

Long story short, Tommy Bowden likes to go to church.

He likes to take his team to church one Sunday a year prior to the start of the season.

Why? I don't know. I haven't the foggiest idea. All I know is that Clemson supports him and he's been doing it for nine seasons.

He tells the families of the players that they are going in advance and makes himself available if anyone has questions. He selects different churches each year, as long as they are large enough to accomdoate the entire team.

Perhaps it's religious. Perhaps it's just to give players a little more perspective on their coach. Perhaps it's just to give the team an off-campus activity.

If the players don't want to go, they don't go. Period. End of story.
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Default RE: We should exercise our right to bear arms against the ACLU...

Ya right you should take up arms against Americans with a different opinion than you, they should be shot for their statements? neckred?
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:41 AM   #3
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Default RE: We should exercise our right to bear arms against the ACLU...

Let me get this straight, you have no problem with a group up in arms and sueing because they saw a coach take his team (voluntarily) to church?
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:42 AM   #4
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L.D.D (11/30/2007) neckred?
Thats some funny stuff right there
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:54 AM   #5
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Your right to bear arms implies you want to carry a gun. I think the fact that the ACLU thinks they need to get involved in everything to stay in the publics eye is funny. I have no need to flash my .40 at them though....
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:10 AM   #6
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<SPAN class=secondary-bf minmax_bound="true">up in arms, ready to take action; indignant; outraged: <SPAN class=ital-inline minmax_bound="true">There is no need to get up in arms over such a trifle. (dictionary.com)<SPAN class=ital-inline minmax_bound="true">

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to serve as a member of the military or of contending forces: <SPAN class=ital-inline minmax_bound="true">His religious convictions kept him from bearing arms, but he served as an ambulance driver with the Red Cross. (dictionary.com)

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Old 11-30-2007, 06:30 PM   #7
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Default RE: We should exercise our right to bear arms against the ACLU...

I didn't see that the ACLU had done anything other than look into the situation. And the University did the same and apparently both came up with the same conclusion that it was voluntary.

Question...If Bowden were aMuslim and all the good Baptist players were following him to services because they felt pressured, would you want the ACLU to look into it? I think you would.
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it was voluntary remember. But I wouldn't have had a problem. Especially not one that requires investigation and litigation.

I guess the last thing we want is someone trying to expose young men to morals, values, and ethics.
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Come on AURADAR: You don't want the players to learn the difference between right and wrong do you
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AUradar even though your an auburn fan im with you on this one. Next those people will be suing families for forcing their kids to go to church
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