A plan to reduce our dependance on oil. - Page 3

Rammer Jammer · 07-17-2008, 04:13 PM

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The best thing about those turbines you see on the site adn on tv is that they're made right here in Pensacola and shipped out of the port. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't GE making those?

You are correct. I worked all summer there a couple of years ago designing a control system for the GE plant in Burkville AL. Not sure if they are shipped out of the port or not but I saw hundreds of them leave on flatbed trailers. The housings are close to 40 feet long and the blades are just absolutely huge.

Yeah, I believe the ones GE makes are sent out directly on rail from the GE plant. A friend of mine works at GE and I think he told me the blades at the port are made somewhere else and sent to the port by rail for shipping.

If you head down to Palafox Pier or whatever they call that new park and look to the left, you'll see them stacked like cord wood on ships ready to leave.

Yeah, I saw them the other day. From what I was told, the blades aren't made by GE in P'cola, only the generators.Thoseblades are coming into the port by ship and being offloaded onto rail car headed to Indiana.

SKATR JIM · 07-17-2008, 04:18 PM

Concerning the blades stacked up at the Port, I think they are coming in from Europe and being sent by rail to a project in Illinois. At least thats what I remember the PNJ saying a week or so ago.

Xanadu · 07-17-2008, 05:11 PM

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38bat (7/17/2008)Interesting topic. Where we hunt in Montana there is a windfarm. I don't think it is particularly unsightly. No noise unless you are right on top of them. They are Massive though. You really can't tell how big they are until you stand next to one. The one I am familiar with is on desolate land and generates enough power in a year to fully power 200,000 homes.

As far as making and storing energy it is very possible. Large yachts do this on a regular basis. It is not unusual for a 60+' yacht, when properly equipped to only run a generator for a few hours every 4 days. I had a cabin in Washington that was "off the grid" so got looking into alternative energy. Easy to do. A neighbor of mine built a 3,000+ sf home that was fully powered by the sun and wind. He had a generator as a backup but rarely used it. His home looked and functioned just like any house in town. Big batteries for storage and big inverters. Cost was not small but pretty cool to not pay any bills at the house!

Container ships are turning to diesel electric where the diesels push generators and batteries store power to drive electric motors pushing the wheels.

Bowed Up · 07-17-2008, 07:29 PM

Convection is awsome and works great: I give you the solar tower, problem solved!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWlP0knKQU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGVTYtJEFk&feature=related

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25499047/

http://www.wired.com/science/discove.../2002/09/54917

kristopherrimes · 07-17-2008, 10:00 PM

I read a couple of interesting articles on using algae to produce bio diesel. The article talked about piping the CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants into these sleeves where algae would grow. Sounded like a win win situation to me. Produce fuel off of something that absorbs CO2. The article also talked about the fact that it could be grown using saltwater in the desert. It said that enough bio diesel could be produced off of as little as 14 million acres of desert to fuel the entire shipping industry in the states. What ever winds up happening I sure do hope it happens fast.

kingfisher222 · 07-18-2008, 02:25 AM

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kristopherrimes (7/17/2008)I read a couple of interesting articles on using algae to produce bio diesel. The article talked about piping the CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants into these sleeves where algae would grow. Sounded like a win win situation to me. Produce fuel off of something that absorbs CO2. The article also talked about the fact that it could be grown using saltwater in the desert. It said that enough bio diesel could be produced off of as little as 14 million acres of desert to fuel the entire shipping industry in the states. What ever winds up happening I sure do hope it happens fast.

Now that sounds good!

Jim/Ga · 07-19-2008, 05:57 PM

I read an article recently about experiments using tide flow and wave action to generate power. Looked like it had a lot of promise.I did some research on residential wind turbies,but most of the SE didn't have consistent average winds needed to power the turbines.A system to run the average ousw would cost about 12-15 K to install.

07-17-2008, 04:18 PM	#22
SKATR JIM Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 136	RE: A plan to reduce our dependance on oil. Concerning the blades stacked up at the Port, I think they are coming in from Europe and being sent by rail to a project in Illinois. At least thats what I remember the PNJ saying a week or so ago.

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kristopherrimes Member Ruby Red Lip Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 45	RE: A plan to reduce our dependance on oil. I read a couple of interesting articles on using algae to produce bio diesel. The article talked about piping the CO2 emissions from coal fired power plants into these sleeves where algae would grow. Sounded like a win win situation to me. Produce fuel off of something that absorbs CO2. The article also talked about the fact that it could be grown using saltwater in the desert. It said that enough bio diesel could be produced off of as little as 14 million acres of desert to fuel the entire shipping industry in the states. What ever winds up happening I sure do hope it happens fast.

07-19-2008, 05:57 PM	#27
Jim/Ga Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 104	RE: A plan to reduce our dependance on oil. I read an article recently about experiments using tide flow and wave action to generate power. Looked like it had a lot of promise.I did some research on residential wind turbies,but most of the SE didn't have consistent average winds needed to power the turbines.A system to run the average ousw would cost about 12-15 K to install.

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