Wetlands ? - if I see lily pads with white flowers

caddysdad · 03-26-2012, 08:05 PM

amongst them is that an indicator of a wetland?

SHunter · 03-26-2012, 08:21 PM

Something that looks like a pond with Lilly pads would be a wetland but you don't always have to see lilly pads for it to be classified as a wetland. Pitcher plant prairies are not wet year round but stand in water long enough to be considered a wetland.

standrew · 03-26-2012, 08:32 PM

You need evidence of of few thing to determine a wetland. One, a dominance of wetland plant (either labelled obligate, facultative wet, or facultative by the FDEP or the Army Corps), two, hydrologic patterns (water marks on trees, rack lines, drainage patterns etc), and hydric soils. A combination of two of these factors usually constitutes a wetland. As stated above, pitcher plant praries are wetland s that routinely do not hold water. If you dug a hole in a prarie and see reducing and oxidizing characteristics in the top 6" (looks like rust in the soil), you are usually standing in what would be considered a regulated wetland. There is obviously a lot more involve in determining of a wetland, but you can get a great grasp of it by reading section 404 of the clean air and water act of 1977. I used to work in the field, for the private land owners, and fight the state and the feds all day long. They will try and claim jurisdiction on anything they can.

Jason · 03-26-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SHunter

Pitcher plant prairies are not wet year round but stand in water long enough to be considered a wetland.

Pitcher Plants are like manatee's....they are not around here, never have never will be! Anyone that has seen either was either drunk or high on drugs!!!!

standrew · 03-26-2012, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Pitcher Plants are like manatee's....they are not around here, never have never will be! Anyone that has seen either was either drunk or high on drugs!!!!

I get your sarcasm, but they are everywhere..... Even in uplands

TCAT · 03-26-2012, 09:02 PM

There are also a few online resources that can help. The USFWS National Wetland Inventory Mapper is great resource to help understand the area under consideration.

http://www.fws.gov/wetlands/Data/Mapper.html

If you are unsure then I would seek the advice of a professional. There are several consulting firms in the area that can help including my company Wetland Sciences, Inc.

Good luck and embrace the Lilies!

Keith Johnson

MULLET HUNTER · 03-26-2012, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Pitcher Plants are like manatee's....they are not around here, never have never will be! Anyone that has seen either was either drunk or high on drugs!!!!

And sawgrass....

chicon monster · 03-26-2012, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Pitcher Plants are like manatee's....they are not around here, never have never will be! Anyone that has seen either was either drunk or high on drugs!!!!

are you kidding there is a park with abunch of pitcher plants.

jim t · 03-26-2012, 09:27 PM

Wetlands are a VERY GOOD thing...

JMHO,

Jim

jim t · 03-26-2012, 09:29 PM

If it is wet most of the time, it's a wetland.

That's from a course 16 years ago though.

Jim

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03-26-2012, 08:21 PM	#2
SHunter Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,464	Something that looks like a pond with Lilly pads would be a wetland but you don't always have to see lilly pads for it to be classified as a wetland. Pitcher plant prairies are not wet year round but stand in water long enough to be considered a wetland.

03-26-2012, 08:32 PM	#3
standrew Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Panama city Posts: 195	You need evidence of of few thing to determine a wetland. One, a dominance of wetland plant (either labelled obligate, facultative wet, or facultative by the FDEP or the Army Corps), two, hydrologic patterns (water marks on trees, rack lines, drainage patterns etc), and hydric soils. A combination of two of these factors usually constitutes a wetland. As stated above, pitcher plant praries are wetland s that routinely do not hold water. If you dug a hole in a prarie and see reducing and oxidizing characteristics in the top 6" (looks like rust in the soil), you are usually standing in what would be considered a regulated wetland. There is obviously a lot more involve in determining of a wetland, but you can get a great grasp of it by reading section 404 of the clean air and water act of 1977. I used to work in the field, for the private land owners, and fight the state and the feds all day long. They will try and claim jurisdiction on anything they can.

03-26-2012, 09:02 PM	#6
TCAT Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 287	There are also a few online resources that can help. The USFWS National Wetland Inventory Mapper is great resource to help understand the area under consideration. http://www.fws.gov/wetlands/Data/Mapper.html If you are unsure then I would seek the advice of a professional. There are several consulting firms in the area that can help including my company Wetland Sciences, Inc. Good luck and embrace the Lilies! Keith Johnson

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