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Old 02-08-2010, 01:03 PM   #21
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I look at thissituation a little differently. Although there are many for "NO DRILLING" we (as anation) are all in this together. We need to use and shareour own resources when they can be used vs sending money overseas. Different states have different resources that are shared throughout the U.S, and the world. How would it of beenif Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama to say we don'twant the cotton fields soyou can'tclear land for fields, we don't want wells so no drilling for oil,or Alabama (especially this area)we don't wantmining of limestone (used in making sheet rock among other building products) so you can't dig. Alabama/Kentucky ..no we're not going to let the mining companies dig holes and mine coal..freeze your ass of Yankees and Floridians when the temperature drops to 50 degrees:doh. Florida has oil among other resources, if you (Florida)don't want to share those resources (oil in this case), why should other areas let Florida..benefit from theirs? Turn off the gas to Florida and see how fast they drill. I'm sure California falls into this same category. A well today can have tentacles like that of an Octopus that reach out as far as 40 miles from the platform, and not seen from the shoreline.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:17 PM   #22
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im against it oil rigs in the gulf it will hurt the military training by reducing the areas where they can perform missile tests and what not, also we buy most of our oil from canada and mexico just because we get a little off the gulf is not gonna stop us buying from them.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:31 PM   #23
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sorry but no support from me i like the nice clear water and white beaches, i have no problem catching fish.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:36 PM   #24
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brnbser (2/8/2010)I'm not sure where you got your info about the military sniper, I am a retired Navy controller and DOD civilian Air Traffic Controller here at NAS Pensacola and we own the offshore airspace from Mobile to FWB out to about 110 miles offshore and that's news to me.....I've been in this job since '94 and never heard that stance on behalf of the military.....matter of fact because we have all the way over to Mobile, there are quite a lot of offshore rigs already in our area of responsability......it's all a Warning Area (W-155) and they exist offshore, ran by military and are all along the gulf coast everywhere from South FL to South TX.....

like I said before, I'm for the offshore rigs but really offshore....like 50 miles plus, I don't want to see one from our beautiful beaches.....in fact I would hate it if our beaches were scattered with them like it is off Dauphin Island.


They opened up this little branch of the armed services a few years ago... Air Force, or something like that. I think they may have snuck a base or two into the Panhandle. They might even do some testing and exercises off of a barrier island or two around here. Maybe they didn't mention that to you? oke

I'm just picking a bit, but as a Fort Walton resident, I'd have to say that I'd rather keep the Air Force and tourists happy than the oil companies. Apparrently I'm one of those hunting, fishing, pro-2A, pro-military hippies that the original poster was referring to :doh
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:42 PM   #25
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I do not get the argument that " I like the clear water and white beaches" Rigs dont make the water and beaches dirty. From what I have read and seen they pose a very minimal environmental threat. Louisiana and mississippi have dirty water and muddy beaches because of the river not the rigs. There are alot of oil rigs in the most beatiful water you will ever see once you get offshore. I say DRILL DRILL DRILL
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:45 PM   #26
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brnbser (2/8/2010)I'm not sure where you got your info about the military sniper, I am a retired Navy controller and DOD civilian Air Traffic Controller here at NAS Pensacola and we own the offshore airspace from Mobile to FWB out to about 110 miles offshore and that's news to me.....I've been in this job since '94 and never heard that stance on behalf of the military.....matter of fact because we have all the way over to Mobile, there are quite a lot of offshore rigs already in our area of responsability......it's all a Warning Area (W-155) and they exist offshore, ran by military and are all along the gulf coast everywhere from South FL to South TX.....

like I said before, I'm for the offshore rigs but really offshore....like 50 miles plus, I don't want to see one from our beautiful beaches.....in fact I would hate it if our beaches were scattered with them like it is off Dauphin Island.


http://www.pnj.com/article/20100114/...g-hit-to-Eglin

Here is an article about it. I also have some other information regarding it. We are suppose to get a new squadron here at Eglin but that has been put on hold now because of the potential for conflict with the drilling. With that new squadron there are a lot of jobs. NOt just military but civilian DOD. Not to mention the consumer goods that the new troops here will purchase from our local economy. The military is our key asset here in Pensacola. I think we need to make it as accomidating to them as possible.

This is just my opinion but I can't see how oil rigs off our beaches is going to do anything but hurt us. I am not apposed to drilling as long as it doesnt impact Pensacola. If we set up these drills just off our beaches, it will.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:46 PM   #27
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Freespool (2/8/2010)I do not get the argument that " I like the clear water and white beaches" Rigs dont make the water and beaches dirty. From what I have read and seen they pose a very minimal environmental threat. Louisiana and mississippi have dirty water and muddy beaches because of the river not the rigs. There are alot of oil rigs in the most beatiful water you will ever see once you get offshore. I say DRILL DRILL DRILL
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:46 PM   #28
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I'm sure Florida could use the jobs (over 11% unemployed) The tourist trade isnt getting it. Drill 10 miles offshore. Make Pensacola port a pipe lay yard, thousands of high paying jobs for all of us.
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This is what the Mississippi River does.... Shot taken at the mouth of the SW pass.

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your right sniper, I stand corrrected. Being at NAS since '94, I have a tendancy to think Navy only.......definately pro military myself, I'm retired Navy, wife is former Navy, son is active duty Navy.....and I'm just as much pro anything that's for the good of Pensacola, if I wasn't, I would not have chose to retire and raise my family here......

I don't like the AF's take on the matter, there is even a new AF squadron here on NAS that has attempted to use it's muscle to change the way things are done on a Navy base.....not!

the Gulf Coast offshore airspace is "operated" by several different branches of the military....

to the west of Mobile, NAS' airspace, everything is operated by the Air Nat'l Guard, it's full of rigs and they use the airspace nonstop without affect

to the east of our airspace is controller by USAF and has not rigs.....they have none in their airspace and I don't think the know what kind of impact it will have so the easiest thing to do is oppose it.......

what I can say is the Navy own's "firing areas and testing areas" and USN, Coast Guardand USAF all use it without incident along with air to air training......we have rigs in our airspace and the AF uses our airspace (even with it's rigs) without incident.......the airspace I control in goes all the way to just west of Hurlbut Field......it's amazing how theycan request to use our airspace and operating in it even w/ its rigs but when talk is made of putting it in their airspace.......they can't possibly continue.......
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