Artificial Reefs in the Bay - Page 4

Evensplit · 08-26-2008, 05:07 PM

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tailfisher · 08-26-2008, 05:36 PM

Man, Thats all I want for Christmas is a inshore reef.Pensacola is so behind the times compared to our neighbors that have everything going for them inshore,nearshore and offshore and we cant even put a few cinder blocks in the water without being crucified because of a few county jerks wont hand out the permits.Good luck and will help out in anyway.

spearfisher · 08-26-2008, 05:48 PM

Please contact all of your representatives and let them know that you support this initiative!How to contact the Santa Rosa County CommissionThe Santa Rosa County Commission members can be contacted at the Santa Rosa County Administrative Office Complex, 6495 Caroline St., Suite M, Milton, 32570. The commission?s office phone number is 983-1876; fax number is 983-1856. E-mail members at comm-[last name]@co.santa-rosa.fl.us; example: Tom Stewart;s e-mail address would be comm-stewart@co.santa-rosa.fl.usThe County Commission meets at 9 a.m. the second and fourth Thursday of the month. Committee meetings are conducted on the Mondays preceding the regular meetings at 9 a.m. All meetings are in the Administrative Office Complex.<HR>How to contact the Escambia County Commission? Mike Whitehead, District 1, 2463 Cavalla Loop, Pensacola, FL 32526; Phone: 595-4910 (office);595-0478 (fax); E-mail: district1@co.escambia.fl.us.? Gene Valentino: District 2, P.O. Box 1591, Pensacola, FL 32591-1591; Phone: 595-4920 (office); 595-4923 (fax); 554-2177 (cell); 866-730-9152 (toll-free); E-mail: district2@co.escambia.fl.us.? Marie Young, District 3, 800 W. Lee St.; Phone: 595-4930 (office); 595-4795 (fax); E-mail: district3@co.escambia.fl.us.? Grover Robinson IV: District 4, 4165 Baisden Road, Pensacola, FL 32503; Phone: 595-4940 (office); 433-8261 (work); E-mail: district4@co.escambia.fl.us.? Kevin White, District 5, 4341 Molino Drive, Molino, FL 32577; Phone: 595-4950 (office). Fax: 595-4204. E-mail: district5@co.escambia.fl.usThe office numbers listed are commissioners? phone numbers at the courthouse. The commission meets twice a month on Thursday nights, beginning with a 4:30 p.m. public forum followed by a
5:30 business meeting at the old County Courthouse, 223 S. Palafox Place.<HR>How to contact Florida?s governor and legislators? Gov. Charlie Crist, PL-05 The Capitol, Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001. Phone: (850) 488-4441. Fax: (850) 487-0801.
E-mail: Form available at www.flgov.com/contact_form? Lt. Gov. Jeff Kottkamp, PL-05 The Capitol, Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001. Phone: (850) 488-4441. Fax: (850) 487-0801.
E-mail: Form available at http://www.flgov.com/contact_form? Sen. Durell Peaden, District 2, R-Crestview
306 Senate Office Building, 404 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100. Phone: (850) 487-5000.
District office: 744 E. Burgess Road, Unit E-103, Pensacola, FL 32504. Phone: 484-9898. Fax: 475-5556.
E-mail: peaden.durell.web@flsenate.gov? Sen. Don Gaetz, District 4, R-Fort Walton Beach
Senate Office Building, Room 320, 404 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100. Phone: (850) 487-5009.
District office: 217 Miracle Strip Parkway, Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548.
E-mail: gaetz.don.web@flsenate.gov? Rep. Greg Evers, District 1, R-Baker
Tallahassee office: 1102 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300; Phone: (850) 488-8188.
District office: 5224 Willing St., Milton, FL 32570; Phone: 983-5550; toll-free, (888) 550-4560.
E-mail: greg.evers@myfloridahouse.gov.? Rep. Dave Murzin, District 2, R-Pensacola
Tallahassee office: 308 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300; Phone: (850) 488-8278.
District office: 7100 Plantation Road Suite 3, Pensacola FL 32504; Phone 494-7330.
E-mail: dave.murzin@myfloridahouse.gov? Rep. Clay Ford, District 3, R-Gulf Breeze
Tallahassee office: 1101 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300. Phone: (850) 488-0895.
District office: 1804 W. Garden Street, Pensacola, FL 32501. Phone: (850) 595-5550.
E-mail: clay.ford@myfloridahouse.gov? Rep. Ray Sansom, District 4, R-Destin
Tallahassee office: 418 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300. Phone: (850) 488-1170.
District office: 348 SW Miracle Strip Parkway, Building C, Suite 12, Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548. Phone: (850) 833-9328
E-mail: ray.sansom@myfloridahouse.gov<HR>Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council2203 N. Lois Avenue, Suite 1100 ? Tampa, FL 33607 Telephone: 813.348.1630 ? Toll Free: 888.833.1844 ? Fax: 813.348.1711E-mail: gulfcouncil@gulfcouncil.orgWebsite: http://www.gulfcouncil.org/<HR>NOAA Fisheries ServiceSoutheast Regional Office
263 13th Avenue South
Saint Petersburg, Florida 33701REGIONAL ADMINISTRATOR: Dr. Roy Crabtree[/b]Phone: (727) 824-5301 FAX: (727) 824-5300[/b]<HR>Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Farris Bryant Building ? 620 S. Meridian St. ? Tallahassee, FL
32399-1600 ? (850) 488-4676
Send correspondence to the Commissioners in care of: Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission
620 South Meridian Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1600 E-mail: Commissioners@MyFWC.com

<TABLE id=table23 cellPadding=5 width="97%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Northwest Region
Lt. Col. Louie Roberson, Regional Director
3911 Hwy. 2321
Panama City, FL 32409-1658
(850) 265-3676
24-Hour Law Enforcement:
850-245-7710</TD><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Southwest Region
Greg Holder, Regional Director
3900 Drane Field Road
Lakeland, FL 33811-1299
(863) 648-3200
24-Hour Law Enforcement:
813-558-5050</TD></TR><TR><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">North Central Region
Rolando Garcia, Regional Director
3377 E. US Highway 90
Lake City, FL 32055-8795
(386) 758-0525
24-Hour Law Enforcement:
386-758-0529</TD><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">South Region
Chuck Collins, Regional Director
8535 Northlake Boulevard
West Palm Beach, FL 33412
(561) 625-5122
24-Hour Law Enforcement:
561-625-5122</TD></TR><TR><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Northeast Region
Dennis David, Regional Director
1239 S.W. 10th Street
Ocala, FL 34471-0323
(352) 732-1225
24-Hour Law Enforcement:
352-732-1225</TD><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Monroe and Collier County
24-Hour Law Enforcement:
305-289-2320</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

need2fish · 08-26-2008, 07:26 PM

[quote]Telum Piscis (8/26/2008)

Quote:

need2fish (8/26/2008)I'm very enthusiastic (to borrow from Evensplit's letter) about near shore and inshore artificial reef placement but I don't understand what specific approval needs to be obtained.

Is there a definitive approval from a group or person that has to happen before we can sink near shore artificial reefs and is there a zone or set of zones that have already been proposed as the known preferred area to sink them?

Army Corps of Engineers sets where reefs can be placed. And yes there are permited areas. The east andwest LAARS areas are the only place we can sink reefs currently. See link below.

http://www.co.escambia.fl.us/departments/nesd/NESDMarineResourcesLAARSMaps.htm[/quote]

Thanks for the info. I'm aware of the LAARS areas we are currently approved for. I'm interested to know the process by which approval is granted by the Corps or the specific person(s) who need to provide the approval of a newnear shore or in shore area for reef placement. Who has jurisdiction in those areas and who is/are the decision maker(s).

X-Shark · 08-26-2008, 08:13 PM

OUTSTANDING! spearfisher that is the links that needed to be posted.

Quote:

I'm interested to know the process by which approval is granted by the Corps or the specific person(s) who need to provide the approval of a new near shore or in shore area for reef placement. Who has jurisdiction in those areas and who is/are the decision maker(s).

The problem is you will never know. I'm talking about the Army Corp here.

They hide behind

"WE ARE the GOVERNMENT and YOU CAN'T TOUCH US!"

Put the pressure on the people that Army Corp has to answer to. Then and only then this will happen.

I met with 7 different business owners today to get them behind this project.

spearfisher · 08-26-2008, 08:48 PM

Your contact for the Army Corp of Engineers is Cliff Payne. In the past when I have emailed him I have found him to be very responsive. Please email him and let him know how you feel on this issue.

His email address is:

Lyal.C.Payne@usace.army.mil

Clay-Doh · 08-27-2008, 08:39 AM

This would be great for our local bays!!! Imagine more places to catch snapper inshore!

CAPT. PAUL REDMAN · 08-27-2008, 08:56 AM

Hey Guys and Gals,

Thanks for the support, I have recieved some emails but would really like to see alot more if you can find time.

We really wont have another material opportunity like this, I can put this stuff outin a weekin the laars east and west sites but that would only provide more commercial fishing opportunities while we cant fish but 2 months this year and what looks like 0 total allowable catch for federal waters next year. I really want to see this stuff inside state waters.

Here's why you should help make this happen.

1. essential fish habitat- the magnusson-stevens act requires it

2.economic impact to our community- I dont think you could put a dollar amount on it.In mask fin snorkel's, rods and reels, camerassales alone it would be off the charts.If we had an beach approachable site for tourist every walmart, k-mart academy, convenience store,tackle shopthat carried afishing or diving equipmentwould benefit from that alone. Not to mention the other things that go along with getting to and from the site; fuel, food etc. etc.

3.Safety- I know I should have said this one first. We dont have a snorkel or dive site in less than 1 atmosphere (33 ft) for training. The sheriff departments dive team could use it, Escambia search and rescue etc, etc.

4. Equal fishing opportunities - not everyone is lucky enough to have an off- shore vessel to make it off shore safely and should be awarded the same oppurtunitie's as the rest of us .Besides weather is not always accurate and it would be another opportunity for large vessels as well.

5. Competition amongst our neighbors; to the east and west; we should not I repeat should not have to send our tourists that we bring into our community to other places because we dont have something like this . Because let me tell you some counties have over 1000 in there bays and near shore area's.

6. NO COST TO THE COUNTY ; ONLY REWARD THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS

We are going to put it out.

Hope that may help a little in writing a support letter.

If not you can just write .

BECAUSE WE WANT IT

spearfisher · 08-27-2008, 07:07 PM

Get in letter writing mode guys! We need personal letters and letters from businesses (preferably on the company letterhead) showing your support.Once you write your letter, you can get it to Capt. Paul one oftwo easyways:

1. Take it by the RFRA Building at:

RFRA Headquarters

1007 West Pine St

Pensacola, FL 32501

(850) 516-1665

2. Email your letter to Capt. Paul:

rfra@reeffishra.com

WRITE A LETTER! IT WILL TAKE TWO MINUTES!!!!!!!

Stuart H. Brown · 08-27-2008, 10:08 PM

Paul,

I'm gonna drop off some letters at the RFRA building in the morning. I'll put them on the desk. SHB

08-26-2008, 05:07 PM	#31
Evensplit Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,612	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay :bump

08-26-2008, 05:36 PM	#32
tailfisher Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 684	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay Man, Thats all I want for Christmas is a inshore reef.Pensacola is so behind the times compared to our neighbors that have everything going for them inshore,nearshore and offshore and we cant even put a few cinder blocks in the water without being crucified because of a few county jerks wont hand out the permits.Good luck and will help out in anyway.

08-26-2008, 05:48 PM	#33
spearfisher Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 892	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay Please contact all of your representatives and let them know that you support this initiative!<P align=center>How to contact the Santa Rosa County Commission<P align=center>The Santa Rosa County Commission members can be contacted at the Santa Rosa County Administrative Office Complex, 6495 Caroline St., Suite M, Milton, 32570. The commission?s office phone number is 983-1876; fax number is 983-1856. E-mail members at comm-[last name]@co.santa-rosa.fl.us; example: Tom Stewart;s e-mail address would be comm-stewart@co.santa-rosa.fl.us<P align=center>The County Commission meets at 9 a.m. the second and fourth Thursday of the month. Committee meetings are conducted on the Mondays preceding the regular meetings at 9 a.m. All meetings are in the Administrative Office Complex.<HR><P align=center>How to contact the Escambia County Commission<P align=center>? Mike Whitehead, District 1, 2463 Cavalla Loop, Pensacola, FL 32526; Phone: 595-4910 (office);595-0478 (fax); E-mail: district1@co.escambia.fl.us.<P align=center>? Gene Valentino: District 2, P.O. Box 1591, Pensacola, FL 32591-1591; Phone: 595-4920 (office); 595-4923 (fax); 554-2177 (cell); 866-730-9152 (toll-free); E-mail: district2@co.escambia.fl.us.<P align=center>? Marie Young, District 3, 800 W. Lee St.; Phone: 595-4930 (office); 595-4795 (fax); E-mail: district3@co.escambia.fl.us.<P align=center>? Grover Robinson IV: District 4, 4165 Baisden Road, Pensacola, FL 32503; Phone: 595-4940 (office); 433-8261 (work); E-mail: district4@co.escambia.fl.us.<P align=center>? Kevin White, District 5, 4341 Molino Drive, Molino, FL 32577; Phone: 595-4950 (office). Fax: 595-4204. E-mail: district5@co.escambia.fl.us<P align=center>The office numbers listed are commissioners? phone numbers at the courthouse. The commission meets twice a month on Thursday nights, beginning with a 4:30 p.m. public forum followed by a 5:30 business meeting at the old County Courthouse, 223 S. Palafox Place.<HR><P align=center>How to contact Florida?s governor and legislators<P align=center>? Gov. Charlie Crist, PL-05 The Capitol, Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001. Phone: (850) 488-4441. Fax: (850) 487-0801. E-mail: Form available at www.flgov.com/contact_form<P align=center>? Lt. Gov. Jeff Kottkamp, PL-05 The Capitol, Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001. Phone: (850) 488-4441. Fax: (850) 487-0801. E-mail: Form available at http://www.flgov.com/contact_form<P align=center>? Sen. Durell Peaden, District 2, R-Crestview 306 Senate Office Building, 404 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100. Phone: (850) 487-5000. District office: 744 E. Burgess Road, Unit E-103, Pensacola, FL 32504. Phone: 484-9898. Fax: 475-5556. E-mail: peaden.durell.web@flsenate.gov<P align=center>? Sen. Don Gaetz, District 4, R-Fort Walton Beach Senate Office Building, Room 320, 404 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1100. Phone: (850) 487-5009. District office: 217 Miracle Strip Parkway, Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548. E-mail: gaetz.don.web@flsenate.gov<P align=center>? Rep. Greg Evers, District 1, R-Baker Tallahassee office: 1102 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300; Phone: (850) 488-8188. District office: 5224 Willing St., Milton, FL 32570; Phone: 983-5550; toll-free, (888) 550-4560. E-mail: greg.evers@myfloridahouse.gov.<P align=center>? Rep. Dave Murzin, District 2, R-Pensacola Tallahassee office: 308 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300; Phone: (850) 488-8278. District office: 7100 Plantation Road Suite 3, Pensacola FL 32504; Phone 494-7330. E-mail: dave.murzin@myfloridahouse.gov<P align=center>? Rep. Clay Ford, District 3, R-Gulf Breeze Tallahassee office: 1101 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300. Phone: (850) 488-0895. District office: 1804 W. Garden Street, Pensacola, FL 32501. Phone: (850) 595-5550. E-mail: clay.ford@myfloridahouse.gov<P align=center>? Rep. Ray Sansom, District 4, R-Destin Tallahassee office: 418 House Office Building, 402 S. Monroe St., Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300. Phone: (850) 488-1170. District office: 348 SW Miracle Strip Parkway, Building C, Suite 12, Fort Walton Beach, FL 32548. Phone: (850) 833-9328 E-mail: ray.sansom@myfloridahouse.gov<HR><P align=center>Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=center>2203 N. Lois Avenue, Suite 1100 ? Tampa, FL 33607 <P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px" align=center>Telephone: 813.348.1630 ? Toll Free: 888.833.1844 ? Fax: 813.348.1711<P align=center>E-mail: gulfcouncil@gulfcouncil.org<P align=center>Website: http://www.gulfcouncil.org/<HR><P align=center>NOAA Fisheries Service<P align=center>Southeast Regional Office 263 13th Avenue South Saint Petersburg, Florida 33701<P align=center><SPAN class="style3 style4"><STRONG style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400">REGIONAL ADMINISTRATOR: Dr. Roy Crabtree[/b]<P align=center>Phone: (727) 824-5301 <SPAN class="style3 style4"><STRONG style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400">FAX: (727) 824-5300[/b]<HR><P align=center>Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission <P align=center>Farris Bryant Building ? 620 S. Meridian St. ? Tallahassee, FL 32399-1600 ? (850) 488-4676 <P class=Body align=center>Send correspondence to the Commissioners in care of: <P class=Body align=center>Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission 620 South Meridian Street Tallahassee, FL 32399-1600 <P class=Body align=center>E-mail: Commissioners@MyFWC.com <TABLE id=table23 cellPadding=5 width="97%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Northwest Region Lt. Col. Louie Roberson, Regional Director 3911 Hwy. 2321 Panama City, FL 32409-1658 (850) 265-3676 24-Hour Law Enforcement: 850-245-7710</TD><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Southwest Region Greg Holder, Regional Director 3900 Drane Field Road Lakeland, FL 33811-1299 (863) 648-3200 24-Hour Law Enforcement: 813-558-5050</TD></TR><TR><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">North Central Region Rolando Garcia, Regional Director 3377 E. US Highway 90 Lake City, FL 32055-8795 (386) 758-0525 24-Hour Law Enforcement: 386-758-0529</TD><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">South Region Chuck Collins, Regional Director 8535 Northlake Boulevard West Palm Beach, FL 33412 (561) 625-5122 24-Hour Law Enforcement: 561-625-5122</TD></TR><TR><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Northeast Region Dennis David, Regional Director 1239 S.W. 10th Street Ocala, FL 34471-0323 (352) 732-1225 24-Hour Law Enforcement: 352-732-1225</TD><TD class=Body vAlign=top align=middle width="50%">Monroe and Collier County 24-Hour Law Enforcement: 305-289-2320</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

08-26-2008, 08:48 PM	#36
spearfisher Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 892	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay Your contact for the Army Corp of Engineers is Cliff Payne. In the past when I have emailed him I have found him to be very responsive. Please email him and let him know how you feel on this issue. His email address is: <U>Lyal.C.Payne@usace.army.mil</U>

08-27-2008, 08:39 AM	#37
Clay-Doh Senior Member Blue Marlin Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Gulf Breeze, or 100' Deep on a Wreck With a Gun! Posts: 4,942	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay This would be great for our local bays!!! Imagine more places to catch snapper inshore! __________________ SO EASY A CAVEMAN CAN DO IT. MY UNDERWATER SPEARFISHING VIDEOS

08-27-2008, 08:56 AM	#38
CAPT. PAUL REDMAN Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 341	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay Hey Guys and Gals, Thanks for the support, I have recieved some emails but would really like to see alot more if you can find time. We really wont have another material opportunity like this, I can put this stuff outin a weekin the laars east and west sites but that would only provide more commercial fishing opportunities while we cant fish but 2 months this year and what looks like 0 total allowable catch for federal waters next year. I really want to see this stuff inside state waters. Here's why you should help make this happen. 1. essential fish habitat- the magnusson-stevens act requires it 2.economic impact to our community- I dont think you could put a dollar amount on it.In mask fin snorkel's, rods and reels, camerassales alone it would be off the charts.If we had an beach approachable site for tourist every walmart, k-mart academy, convenience store,tackle shopthat carried afishing or diving equipmentwould benefit from that alone. Not to mention the other things that go along with getting to and from the site; fuel, food etc. etc. 3.Safety- I know I should have said this one first. We dont have a snorkel or dive site in less than 1 atmosphere (33 ft) for training. The sheriff departments dive team could use it, Escambia search and rescue etc, etc. 4. Equal fishing opportunities - not everyone is lucky enough to have an off- shore vessel to make it off shore safely and should be awarded the same oppurtunitie's as the rest of us .Besides weather is not always accurate and it would be another opportunity for large vessels as well. 5. Competition amongst our neighbors; to the east and west; we should not I repeat should not have to send our tourists that we bring into our community to other places because we dont have something like this . Because let me tell you some counties have over 1000 in there bays and near shore area's. 6. NO COST TO THE COUNTY ; ONLY REWARD THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS We are going to put it out. Hope that may help a little in writing a support letter. If not you can just write . *BECAUSE WE WANT IT*

08-27-2008, 07:07 PM	#39
spearfisher Senior Member Grouper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 892	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay Get in letter writing mode guys! We need personal letters and letters from businesses (preferably on the company letterhead) showing your support.Once you write your letter, you can get it to Capt. Paul one oftwo easyways: 1. Take it by the RFRA Building at: RFRA Headquarters 1007 West Pine St Pensacola, FL 32501 (850) 516-1665 2. Email your letter to Capt. Paul: rfra@reeffishra.com WRITE A LETTER! IT WILL TAKE TWO MINUTES!!!!!!!

08-27-2008, 10:08 PM	#40
Stuart H. Brown Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 512	RE: Artificial Reefs in the Bay Paul, I'm gonna drop off some letters at the RFRA building in the morning. I'll put them on the desk. SHB

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