Alligators In My Lake, what next? - Page 4

dbyrd2100 · 08-31-2010, 11:09 PM

As far as the FWC relocating the gator, in my experience, it probably won't happen. We had an 11' gator hanging around our swimming hole/boat dock in Crystal River. Reported it to the FWC and a trapper showed up a few days later. He tied a bait to the same post I tied my boat to and caught the gator the next day. I saw the gator caught and up in the sawgrass and thought they would relocate it. The trapper showed up a few hours later and hit it with a bang stick. As BT said repeatedly, DELETE. You can have the same result without all the aggrevation.

JoeZ · 08-31-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by C-monsters

What happened to Joe-Z? Am I crazy, or did his signature say he was a "nuisance wildlife trapper" a while back?

Eight-fingers Animal Control went out of business. I'm down to seven now and deal mostly with gerbils, tree frogs and a few rabid chia pets.

wld1985 · 08-31-2010, 11:42 PM

ahaha Joe Z..
I bet what he Really wants to say, since this turned into a 4-pager with half of them saying just call FWC or you could be fined with the yadda yadda.. He does'nt even want his name in it.

Comfortably Numb · 09-01-2010, 10:17 AM

Sometimes a problem gator can accidently get caught on a properly set trot line(Large hook and live fish). If the line is deep enough and strong enough they can tragically drown under water after being hooked and rot away without anyone ever knowing they were there. No laws against trot lines....yet.

welldoya · 09-01-2010, 10:21 AM

Don't confuse common sense with the law. 99% of us here know exactly how to handle that gator. Unfortunately we could get in big trouble for doing so. Call the authorities. Even though you could handle it yourself, the government likes to think that you need them to take care of you.

Joraca · 09-01-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenton

<snip> Then the man, who is an AMERICAN citizen, on his OWN property, does what any good man/father SHOULD do. He kills the dangerous creature. (Let me also state that i can kill a man in my yard who is threatening me or my family with not so much as a slap on the wrist in Florida). Then, THEN! The ignorant neighbor calls the cops and says she feels THREATENED by the fact that the man discharged a high power rifle in HIS OWN yard. <snip>

Well, I would feel more threatened by someone using my house as a backstop for say, a 30-06 fired across water, than I would a 4 foot gator.

Joraca

pappastratos · 09-01-2010, 12:21 PM

OK, verify with local wildlife officals that you can kill a gator if it is threatening your child or pet. Get their name & contact info. If gator gets in your yard, BBOOOMMM ! Problem is there are more where that one came from,,,,

pappastratos · 09-01-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ted-hurst

You guys need to watch the show on TV that's about the FWC on Florida Sun Sports. There was an instance just like what has been posted here but was in south Florida. This little gator (about 2 ft) was in this neighborhood and FWC was called. One good samartian catches the gator, (doesn't want to hurt it) puts a wood chip in the tip of the gators mouth and uses some electrical tape to hold it closed. I guess he put the wood chip in there so the gator could breathe. This guys trying not to hurt the gator so he can be relocated and along comes FWC. This Lt. (his nickname was Big Poppa) gets out of his truck and starts talking about how you shouldn't do this and that to the gator, next he writes the guy a warning for MOLESTING the gator. The guy is pissed, all he was trying to do was keep the gator safe until it could be relocated and this MORON with no common sense gives him a ticket. I guess were lucky up here because every FWC officer I've meet has been good but you might want to give them a call before you have to go to court for molesting a gator.

Ted

I would have cut the tape off gator's mouth & tossed it into the cab of the FWC's truck,,,& say "here you take care of it" !!

pappastratos · 09-01-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Joraca

Well, I would feel more threatened by someone using my house as a backstop for say, a 30-06 fired across water, than I would a 4 foot gator.

Joraca

boy, you got that right. If you shoot one, needs to be at a close range, shot at a downward angle,,,

thataway · 09-02-2010, 11:40 PM

The "incident in West Pensacola" happend on an arm of Bayou Marcus (Mill View area) about May 23 2005. The aligator involved was not agressive and about 5 feet long. The daughter had been feeding turtles from the sea wall on the property. The perpitrator had been shooting at this alligator almost every afternoon for about 2 weeks. He claimed to have called FLorida Fish and Wildlife--they had no record of his call--and he said he "couldn't get thru". The shots were fired across the boyou toward 4 houses which all had children who played in the back yard. It would have been very easy for a shot to richocet into one of the neighbor's yards (lots of debris in the water post Ivan). The perpitrator at first denied shooting at an alligator (claimed he shot at a water moc. with a shotgun)--he had given the 30.30 to a "Friend" to keep. Bullet in the gator matched the gun.

There have been other gators on Bayou Marcus--and there currently are. FFW has been called and each time a trapper was sent out. I know of one which was relocated (so they say) and at least one which was shot. In each case when an alligator was removed, another came into that territory.

In this current case, the original poster has identified the problem in an open public forum. Thus he needs to contact Florida Fish and Wildlife, to have a trapper remove the gator. Understand that this appears to be on private property--but I believe that what ever the law against shooting gators without a permit, is still held on private property.

Personally I can live with 5 foot gators, but when they get to be 12 to 13 feet, then there is a much more significant danger. The small ones are great to show to the visitors...plus there will always be gators in the swamps..

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08-31-2010, 11:09 PM	#31
dbyrd2100 Senior Member Trigger Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pace Posts: 249	As far as the FWC relocating the gator, in my experience, it probably won't happen. We had an 11' gator hanging around our swimming hole/boat dock in Crystal River. Reported it to the FWC and a trapper showed up a few days later. He tied a bait to the same post I tied my boat to and caught the gator the next day. I saw the gator caught and up in the sawgrass and thought they would relocate it. The trapper showed up a few hours later and hit it with a bang stick. As BT said repeatedly, DELETE. You can have the same result without all the aggrevation.

08-31-2010, 11:42 PM	#33
wld1985 Senior Member White Marlin Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pensacola Posts: 3,585	ahaha Joe Z.. I bet what he Really wants to say, since this turned into a 4-pager with half of them saying just call FWC or you could be fined with the yadda yadda.. He does'nt even want his name in it.

09-01-2010, 10:17 AM	#34
Comfortably Numb Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 185	Sometimes a problem gator can accidently get caught on a properly set trot line(Large hook and live fish). If the line is deep enough and strong enough they can tragically drown under water after being hooked and rot away without anyone ever knowing they were there. No laws against trot lines....yet.

09-01-2010, 10:21 AM	#35
welldoya Senior Member Sailfish Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pace, Florida Posts: 2,295	Don't confuse common sense with the law. 99% of us here know exactly how to handle that gator. Unfortunately we could get in big trouble for doing so. Call the authorities. Even though you could handle it yourself, the government likes to think that you need them to take care of you.

09-01-2010, 12:21 PM	#37
pappastratos Senior Member Snapper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Magnolia Springs, on weekends Posts: 559	OK, verify with local wildlife officals that you can kill a gator if it is threatening your child or pet. Get their name & contact info. If gator gets in your yard, BBOOOMMM ! Problem is there are more where that one came from,,,,

09-02-2010, 11:40 PM	#40
thataway Senior Member Mingo Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 152	The "incident in West Pensacola" happend on an arm of Bayou Marcus (Mill View area) about May 23 2005. The aligator involved was not agressive and about 5 feet long. The daughter had been feeding turtles from the sea wall on the property. The perpitrator had been shooting at this alligator almost every afternoon for about 2 weeks. He claimed to have called FLorida Fish and Wildlife--they had no record of his call--and he said he "couldn't get thru". The shots were fired across the boyou toward 4 houses which all had children who played in the back yard. It would have been very easy for a shot to richocet into one of the neighbor's yards (lots of debris in the water post Ivan). The perpitrator at first denied shooting at an alligator (claimed he shot at a water moc. with a shotgun)--he had given the 30.30 to a "Friend" to keep. Bullet in the gator matched the gun. There have been other gators on Bayou Marcus--and there currently are. FFW has been called and each time a trapper was sent out. I know of one which was relocated (so they say) and at least one which was shot. In each case when an alligator was removed, another came into that territory. In this current case, the original poster has identified the problem in an open public forum. Thus he needs to contact Florida Fish and Wildlife, to have a trapper remove the gator. Understand that this appears to be on private property--but I believe that what ever the law against shooting gators without a permit, is still held on private property. Personally I can live with 5 foot gators, but when they get to be 12 to 13 feet, then there is a much more significant danger. The small ones are great to show to the visitors...plus there will always be gators in the swamps..

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